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any suggestions for sinus problems due to post pca treatment viagra use

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gary.miller12@comcast.net - 27 Aug 2006 18:24 GMT
i am concerned about prescribed post treatment use of viagra since it
causes my sinuses to fill up and i get flushed like too much sun
exposure.  any suggestions, especially for my sinuses?
gary
I.P. Freely - 27 Aug 2006 18:49 GMT
> i am concerned about prescribed post treatment use of viagra since it
> causes my sinuses to fill up and i get flushed like too much sun
> exposure.  any suggestions, especially for my sinuses?
> gary

Yours is a recognized Viaga SE; if it's treatable, your doctor should
know how to treat it. You might try Afrin nose spray WITH YOUR DOCTOR'S
CONCURRENCE. It does wonders for engorged nasal tissues, but cannot be
used for more than 2-3 days in a  row.

I.P.
Alan Meyer - 27 Aug 2006 19:00 GMT
>i am concerned about prescribed post treatment use of viagra since it
> causes my sinuses to fill up and i get flushed like too much sun
> exposure.  any suggestions, especially for my sinuses?
> gary

Sinus congestion is a histamine reaction.  You could try
anti-histamines.  However it is possible that you are not
really getting sinus congestion, but just the strange feeling
in the head that one gets from the dilation of blood vessels
that viagra causes.

Are you using viagra for sex, or as a regular, every day drug,
prescribed for the purpose of keeping the blood flowing
into the penis?

I asked my urologist about that second use of viagra.  He
said he thought there were fads in urology as in all medicine
and in everything else.  He wasn't convinced that anyone had
shown that using viagra in this way actually achieves anything.
He didn't think it did.

If you want to stick with the viagra, you might try cutting
back the dose.  If you get the flushed feeling with 50 mg
and with 100 mg, I would think that indicates that more
than 50 isn't doing you that much good, 50 is enough.
Then try 25 mg.

I'm no expert, but I'm guessing that the minimal dose that
gives you some flushed feeling is all you benefit from.

I'm also thinking it's a bad idea to take viagra on a regular
basis, and anti-histamines along with it.  Then you'll want
something to counter the sleepiness of the anti-histamines,
and something to counter the jitteriness of the thing that
counters the sleepiness, and then ... who knows.

   Alan
Steve Kramer - 27 Aug 2006 21:13 GMT
>i am concerned about prescribed post treatment use of viagra since it
> causes my sinuses to fill up and i get flushed like too much sun
> exposure.  any suggestions, especially for my sinuses?

Never tried this, but I understand taking a small portion of the pill on a
nightly basis keeps things headed in the right direction for when you really
want it.  I may be wrong, but I think some have experienced less SEs doing
it that way.  There is a couple of other ED drugs too, that you might want
to try.  I understand some work where Viagra fails.

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MAP - 27 Aug 2006 22:16 GMT
50 mg (half a tablet) of "V" with 81mg Aspirin (kids dosage) keeps the
headaches and sinus problems away for me!
Leonard Evens - 28 Aug 2006 00:19 GMT
> i am concerned about prescribed post treatment use of viagra since it
> causes my sinuses to fill up and i get flushed like too much sun
> exposure.  any suggestions, especially for my sinuses?
> gary

For me this was always a minor inconvenience, but I didn't use it every
day.  Also, it got a lot better with continued use.

A decongestant ought to clear your sinuses.
gary.miller12@comcast.net - 28 Aug 2006 06:13 GMT
thank you Leonard
decongestants get me wired up.
how long did it take to get better with continued use?
is it a problem if not used every day?
gary
> > i am concerned about prescribed post treatment use of viagra since it
> > causes my sinuses to fill up and i get flushed like too much sun
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>
> A decongestant ought to clear your sinuses.
Leonard Evens - 28 Aug 2006 14:01 GMT
> thank you Leonard
> decongestants get me wired up.
> how long did it take to get better with continued use?
> is it a problem if not used every day?

Viagra was the first thing I tried after surgery to induce an erection,
but it didn't work.  I got a snuffy nose, a mild headache, and the
typical blue haze.  I tied it periodically to see if it made any
difference, but there was no change.  During this time I relied on a
pump which worked reasonably well.   After about 18 months, I found I
was getting something approaching a natural erection, so I tried Viagra
again, and this time it did improve my erections signficantly.   I used
between 50 amd 100 mg, usually the lower amount as half a 100 mg pill.
I used it about once a week, sometimes more often.  The blue haze mostly
 and headache mostly went away, but the snuffiness persisted, lessening
over time.   These days I hardly notice it unless my nose is stuffy to
start with.

I was much more concerned about the possible side effects on my retinas
because of the blue haze.  My opthamologist reassured me about that.
More recently it was reported that some men with heart disease and a
certain kind of macula were apt to face blinddness from use of Viagra
and similar drugs.  I don't have any symptoms of heart disease, although
at age 73 you never can be sure about that.   More important, my
opthamologist told me I don't have that macula condition.

I also tried Cialis, which worked as advertised, but I found it did tend
to induce some backache and muscle pains.  These aren't too serious, but
it is hard to distinguish them from the beginning of a more serious
condition.  Since I have four herniated discs and spial stenosis, I
thought it wise not to use that drug.

> gary
>
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>>A decongestant ought to clear your sinuses.
Claude - 28 Aug 2006 14:28 GMT
> thank you Leonard
> decongestants get me wired up.
> how long did it take to get better with continued use?
> is it a problem if not used every day?
> gary

I find that decongestant pills with pseudoephedrine in them are very
effective at "clearing me up", but counteract the effect of Viagra.  I'm not
an MD or a pharmacist, but as I understand the two drugs, I think
pseudoephedrine tends to raise blood pressure (people with high bp are
advised not to use it), while Viagra lowers blood pressure (originally it
was developed as an anti-hypertension drug).  I may have the pharmacology
wrong, but from personal experience I want to be off pseudoephedrine if I am
going to use Viagra.  I don't take anti-histamines, so I don't know if they
would have the same effect.  Once again, just my $.02.  Claude
Ron B - 28 Aug 2006 15:05 GMT
"I find that decongestant pills with pseudoephedrine in them are very
effective at "clearing me up", but counteract the effect of Viagra. I'm
not an MD or a pharmacist, but as I understand the two drugs, I think
pseudoephedrine tends to raise blood pressure (people with high bp are
advised not to use it), while Viagra lowers blood pressure (originally
it was developed as an anti-hypertension drug). I may have the
pharmacology wrong, but from personal experience I want to be off
pseudoephedrine if I am going to use Viagra. I don't take
anti-histamines, so I don't know if they would have the same effect.
Once again, just my $.02. Claude"

You're right Claude.

That's why I concur with I.P.'s idea of Afrin spray (or generic...every
drug chain has their own brand)

A quick squirt...or 2..in each nostril usually works great...AND it's
not affecting the whole body like Sudafed (pseudoephedrine) oral
tablets.

Also, the thought of not using it for more than 3 days is based on those
who use it SO much that they get 'rebound congestion' (the congestion
comes back STRONGER) and the person bcomes addicted...sometimes using an
entire spray bottle each day. (an extreme case).

Normally...a squirt or 2...just to clear up the Viagra-inducd stuffiness
can be done pretty much every day you use Viagra without a problem.

But ANOTHER question for Gary...

Are you just asking for the future cuz I thought that you hadn't decided
on treatment yet?

The others are correct...go to it.

Books...which you can find at Amazon or Barnes and Noble include...

books by Walsh, Scardino, Strum...and the 'Prostate Cancer for Dummies'
book. (which is good...despite the name.)

The very best wishes to you from us all,

Ron B.

Chicago
I.P. Freely - 28 Aug 2006 17:03 GMT
> Normally...a squirt or 2...just to clear up the Viagra-inducd stuffiness
> can be done pretty much every day you use Viagra without a problem.

As long as that doesn't exceed 2 or maybe 3 days in a row @ once per
day. Rebound often kicks in quickly.

I.P.
in4pharm@yahoo.com - 28 Aug 2006 17:05 GMT
Edward J.

More info about classes and pharmacotherapeutical treatment of
hypertension and related medical conditions of high blood pressure:
<a href="http://drugs-about.com/icd/i10-i15.html">Hypertension Diseases
- Drugs-about.com - ICD-10</a>
gary.miller12@comcast.net - 28 Aug 2006 17:33 GMT
Thank you Ron
yes i am considering it for the future.  it's one of the side effects i
am looking at having to deal with as part of my decision process.  so
far i am getting more serious on the surgery
gary

> "I find that decongestant pills with pseudoephedrine in them are very
> effective at "clearing me up", but counteract the effect of Viagra. I'm
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>
> Chicago
 
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