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dave481 - 20 Aug 2006 00:59 GMT
My primary physician gave me a prescription for Cialis Thurs. 08/17 and
said to take one a day.  Last night, in the shower I had my first post
RP erection. It was a puny one, but was wrinkle free and valid. It
stood about 10:00 o'clock. It was also very painful. It felt like my
penis was getting acid poured on it. The skin felt like it was either
getting ripped or chemically burned off. Did anyone else have this
sensation upon recovery? If so, any tips?   I'm almost afraid to take
todays dose!!

David
John Loomis - 20 Aug 2006 01:59 GMT
How old are you?
Hello David.
When did you have RP.....
It takes time for nerves to heal and erection to come back.
If you have not had an erection for so many days, and months, the first one
is going to scare you!
Are you sure you were not helping the sensation with soap, and or such that
can cause burning outside......hum....
I know Viagra works from the inside out........
I believe Cialis also.
Any outside burning may be related to use of soap or other when stimulating.
Keep trying, use oil, encoourage, do not discourage.
You have great signs of a comeback....
Just guessing, John Loomis
> My primary physician gave me a prescription for Cialis Thurs. 08/17 and
> said to take one a day.  Last night, in the shower I had my first post
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> David
dave481 - 20 Aug 2006 02:50 GMT
John,
54 yo.  RP 03/13/06, no nerves spared.
Last known erection on or about 03/10/06
It was under warm water but wasn't touching it until it showed
some"interest"?
No soap at the time.
It didn't exactly scare me, just wasn't sure what to do with it. I
don't think it's been that size erect since I was about 11 years old.
I stepped out dried off and the pain started.
But, thanks for the help and reply-:)

David

> How old are you?
> Hello David.
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> > David
Leonard Evens - 20 Aug 2006 06:04 GMT
> John,
> 54 yo.  RP 03/13/06, no nerves spared.
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> I stepped out dried off and the pain started.
> But, thanks for the help and reply-:)

I don't remember anything like that happening to me.  But I was using a
pump, and I had started out gradually.  I also tried Viagra with no
effect until some 18 months after surgery when I started getting weak
erections helped significantly with Viagra.   My guess I that the
tissues are just not used to it, and it will go away.  But ask your
doctor about it.

By the way, when you say 'no nerves spared' presumably you mean the
surgeon made no effort to do so.  If the nerves had really been cut,
Viagra should not help you produce an erection.  Read one of the books
about prostate cancer---say Walsh or Scardino.

> David
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>>>David
dave481 - 20 Aug 2006 21:00 GMT
Hi Leonard

If the nerves had really been cut,
> Viagra should not help you produce an erection.

I don't think they left any. It sure didn't seem to be the intent
before the RP. I didn't ask because at the time I also had a colon
re-section and with the ADT. Surgery assault and all, frankly, haven't
cared much. I wrote more to Ron B, above.
I am single, and I don't I would have attempted intercourse if a
partner had been available. I was mainly just trying the Cialis to see
if it went anywhere, in say, a week. Well, there was a result, albeit a
small penis, bur erect just the same. I hope this keeps working.
Thank-you for the reply. Every bit of info helps me physcologically.

David
> > John,
> > 54 yo.  RP 03/13/06, no nerves spared.
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Steve Kramer - 20 Aug 2006 07:16 GMT
> My primary physician gave me a prescription for Cialis Thurs. 08/17 and
> said to take one a day.  Last night, in the shower I had my first post
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> getting ripped or chemically burned off. Did anyone else have this
> sensation upon recovery? If so, any tips?

Yes.  Tell her not to eat spicy foods before sex.

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dave481 - 20 Aug 2006 16:49 GMT
> > My primary physician gave me a prescription for Cialis Thurs. 08/17 and
> > said to take one a day.  Last night, in the shower I had my first post
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> LOL....Steve.....I seldom use that port of entry. In any case, this was a solo endeavor.
> > Yes.  Tell her not to eat spicy foods before sex.

I do have a humorous story about that, it belongs on a different
newsgroup though......ROFL......I was afraid you could read "memories"

David
> PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
> Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
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> Casodex added daily 07/06
> Non Illegitimi Carborundum
Ron B - 20 Aug 2006 17:22 GMT
Some comments Dave...

First...'10 o'clock' is pretty nice. :-)

Then...Steve K. is a regular Krusty the Clown, isn't he?  :-)

(Cute 'spicy food' joke)

Next...5 months is a VERY quick recovery time for erections...especially
with no nerves spared.

I question that comment...maybe you meant that the nerves WERE spared?

I know the drug works on the smooth muscles of the penis...but with no
nerves...it seems great.

And...EVERY day for Cialis seems like a lot.

Its a 36 hour pill and...to increase blood flow...I was directed to take
one...every OTHER day...for the 16 months or so after my open
RP..(3/05)...and with a pump and 'manual work' :-)...I see some
improvement...but no '10 o'clock' yet :-)

Your original comment about pain...I'd have to agree with the other
guys...that the tissues are just not USED to it...and it will become
less painful.

Keep 'up' the good work.

Ron B.

Chicago
dave481 - 20 Aug 2006 20:50 GMT
Hi Ron,
I have decided that every day is alot for Cialis. It gave me a headache
and a stuffy nose. I'm sure your right......the tissue has been
definitly unused. I wasn't even trying......tried a VED but that was
painful and without results as far as I could tell.
No, I don't think any nerves were spared, had 9 peri-neural invasions
on the biopsies. The samples were 12 for 12 positive with Gs of two
10's, six 9's, three 8's, and one 7. the uro said it was too advanced
and aggressive to leave nerves. The pathology on the prostate itself
(after removal) showed a 9 Gleason as well. My GP DR. just had a friend
in his 60's that had good luck with the Cialis treatment and asked if I
wanted to try. Viagra had not helped me except it did seem to enlarge
my penis, but only acheived, what some members here called,
"stuffables".

Steve K. has ripped many a laugh out of me....thanks Steve.

Ron it was good to hear from you, I hope all is going well-:)
David
> Some comments Dave...
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