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JohnHace - 16 Aug 2006 21:32 GMT
There has been a lot of discussion regarding foods and supplements that
improve our situation with PC. However, there is another thread saying
alpha linolenic acid should be avoided.

I'm wondering if there is anything else we should avoid. The only thing
that jumps to mind is saturated fats. Can anyone think of others?

Thanks,

John
Glassman@work - 17 Aug 2006 16:38 GMT
> There has been a lot of discussion regarding foods and supplements that
> improve our situation with PC. However, there is another thread saying
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> John

  There is no evidence that anything you do or don't eat will affect your
PCa in any way. World class athletes, strict vegans, and fat slobs, all get
it. Sorry. Go out and live your life to the fullest everyday. Get
traditional treatment, and there's a really good chance you'll die of
something else.

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Steve Kramer - 17 Aug 2006 17:09 GMT
>   There is no evidence that anything you do or don't eat will affect your
> PCa in any way. World class athletes, strict vegans, and fat slobs, all
> get it.

I'm not a world class athlete

I'm not a strict vegan

...

HEY!!!
Claude - 17 Aug 2006 17:41 GMT
>> There has been a lot of discussion regarding foods and supplements that
>> improve our situation with PC. However, there is another thread saying
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>   There is no evidence that anything you do or don't eat will affect your
> PCa in any way.

I understand the point you are trying to make, but your statement is not
true.  There is no *proof*, but there *is* evidence that avoidance of
certain foods---especially saturated fats---and the intake of other foods
and/or supplements *might* make a difference.  Whether or not one wants to
act on the basis of that evidence is the choice they must make.
Alan Meyer - 17 Aug 2006 20:44 GMT
> > ...
> >   There is no evidence that anything you do or don't eat will affect your
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> and/or supplements *might* make a difference.  Whether or not one wants to
> act on the basis of that evidence is the choice they must make.

>From what I have read, most elements of diet are not
critical in the development of cancer.  However, like Claude,
I have also read that people with high saturated fat intake,
and people who are very overweight, do have higher rates
of many cancers.

A friend of mine used to quip that he didn't know whether
healthy eating made life longer, or only made it seem longer.
He ate everything he wanted, never exercised, and was way
overweight.  He also died of a heart attack at age 58.

   Alan
NICK - 18 Aug 2006 20:41 GMT
>    There is no evidence that anything you do or don't eat will affect your
> PCa in any way. World class athletes, strict vegans, and fat slobs, all get
> it. Sorry. Go out and live your life to the fullest everyday. Get
> traditional treatment, and there's a really good chance you'll die of
> something else.

VINEGARE SUPPLEMENTS      April 11, 2006

Apple-cider vinegar tablets, widely marketed for weight loss and other
programs, may not contain their active ingredient.  Test results for
eight brands of the tablets, published in the Journal of the American
Dietetic Association, showed that they had as little as one-tenth the
labeled quantity of acetic acid, the defining ingredient in vinegar.
And there is not evidence the tablets work or are safe.
-----------------------------

I have suspicions this is true for many, many claims.  In spite of the
FDA and pure drug laws, we are still living in the days of the
"Medicine Man" coming into town in his covered wagon with a spiel of
"miracle cure."
Leonard Evens - 18 Aug 2006 16:41 GMT
> There has been a lot of discussion regarding foods and supplements that
> improve our situation with PC. However, there is another thread saying
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> John

I'm afraid that in a previous answer I mentioned the possiblity that
Vitamin E plus Selenium might produce some benefits.   But someone else
posted a link about a metastudy suggesting that Vitamin E at 400 units
or higher may increase the death rate from all causes.   I'm still
skeptical about that unit I learn more, but I thought I should note it.

The argument for Vitamin E plus Selenium, I remind you, is that there is
currently a clinical trial to see if it prevents prostate cancer.  We
won't know the results of that trial for a while, and in any case even
if it prevents the development of prostate cancer, it may not help once
it has been diagnosed.
You smiled, you spoke, and I believed - 18 Aug 2006 18:42 GMT
> There has been a lot of discussion regarding foods and supplements that
> improve our situation with PC. However, there is another thread saying
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> John

with the incidence rate of approximately one in six men getting pc, I
would submit that the determination of causitive factors or preventive
factors in diets, livestyle, etc. would be very difficult and the
results would not be statistical significant.

The two main factors are sex (male) and age.

If you can avoid those your chances of getting pc are greatly reduced if
not totally nullified.

j.
NICK - 18 Aug 2006 20:27 GMT
> The two main factors are sex (male) and age.
>
> If you can avoid those your chances of getting pc are greatly reduced if
> not totally nullified.

Remain in the womb all your life.

| Men are the oddest characters on the Earth.
| They spend 9 months to get out and the rest
| of their lives trying to get back in.
dale.j. - 19 Aug 2006 00:03 GMT
> > There has been a lot of discussion regarding foods and supplements that
> > improve our situation with PC. However, there is another thread saying
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> j.

Having a father, brother with it gives you a higher risk.  My father had
it.  My doc said it is a risk factor.

Dale j.

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