Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate Cancer / August 2006
Lupron Scam
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John Loomis - 11 Aug 2006 02:18 GMT I watched and got a Lupron paper to fill out for a Court Hearing. I was given Lupron Depot, 3 month horse shot...Ouch. It really screwd me up. My billing was 1500.00 for one shot..... I was planning for Radiation, got the shot, and decided to seek other venues..... I cannot believe how long this whole affair takes.... I was diagnosed in 1999. I had Lupron Depot same time....... I had Rp/ Thank Allah, or God, or the sky! I am alive, see this Lupron trial, and such, and send in my facts. I got a check for 750.00....Today. Yes, 750.00 dollars... What is the matter with our health system, and why did I have to fill out paperwork, and such and get a settlement.... I feel like holding a party, sending to prostate cancer research, or buying beer, and bbque...... I admit, I am tired....just wondering... John Loomis Can U believe this! Good wishes on all.
Alan Meyer - 11 Aug 2006 06:00 GMT >I watched and got a Lupron paper to fill out for a Court Hearing. > I was given Lupron Depot, 3 month horse shot...Ouch. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Can U believe this! > Good wishes on all. TAP Pharmaceuticals, the makers of Lupron, paid one of, if not _the_ largest settlement for price gouging of any drug company. I believe they paid 825 million dollars. Your $750 came out of that.
One of TAP's tricks was to give free samples to doctors with paperwork that looked like the doctors had paid for the drugs. The doctors then billed insurance companies and patients, and Medicare for administration of the drug, making it look like they were just recovering the cost charged to them by TAP.
Alan
dave481 - 11 Aug 2006 21:56 GMT Alan, they gave me *Eligaard*, which I think is Lupron, according to you guys here at ascp. They charged the insurance co. $1500. Getting RT now,(22 down....18 to go). Is the Eligaard useless? If so would they pay me or the insurance co?
Thanks David
> >I watched and got a Lupron paper to fill out for a Court Hearing. > > I was given Lupron Depot, 3 month horse shot...Ouch. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Alan Alan Meyer - 11 Aug 2006 23:05 GMT > Alan, they gave me *Eligaard*, which I think is Lupron, according to > you guys here at ascp. They charged the insurance co. $1500. Getting RT > now,(22 down....18 to go). Is the Eligaard useless? If so would they > pay me or the insurance co? Eligard works. It is a similar drug to Lupron and Zoladex and, as I understand it, is about equally effective.
TAP wasn't sued for producing a useless drug, but for illegal pricing and payment scams. I don't know if the makers of Eligard and Zoladex are doing the same things or not.
It is interesting that the entrance of two more "competitors" into the field has not brought the price of any of these drugs down. It's still very much "your money or your life" in the drug business. There is no regulation in the U.S. (there is in virtually all other countries) that limits the price of drugs. So we often pay double or more what people pay in other countries for the same drugs made by the same manufacturers - who seem to be making good profits in those countries at much lower prices.
Alan
Steve Kramer - 12 Aug 2006 02:21 GMT > Alan, they gave me *Eligaard*, which I think is Lupron, according to > you guys here at ascp. They charged the insurance co. $1500. Getting RT > now,(22 down....18 to go). How's it going, Dave? By 22, I was having some minor bowel problems.
 Signature PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46 Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins PSA .1 .1 .1 .27 .37 .75 EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47 PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05, 5/05, 10/05, 2/06, 6/06 PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 .145 Casodex added daily 07/06 Non Illegitimi Carborundum
dave481 - 12 Aug 2006 13:46 GMT Hey Steve, Going well. Had some rectal pain, but they gave me Proctofoam, two days off, and it's all but disappeared and four applications. Coincidently, since the Proctofoam I've been 100% continent, still wear a light pad "just in case". And it's only been 5 days so I'll see. It feels sometimes like I'm going to have "wet fart" , please forgive crudity, but so far that's just been a sensation and not an actuality. I'm hoping to be back at work (the real job) by the second or third week of Sept.
Great to hear from you Steve
David
> > Alan, they gave me *Eligaard*, which I think is Lupron, according to > > you guys here at ascp. They charged the insurance co. $1500. Getting RT [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Casodex added daily 07/06 > Non Illegitimi Carborundum Steve Jordan - 12 Aug 2006 02:50 GMT > Alan, they gave me *Eligaard*, which I think is Lupron, according to > you guys here at ascp. They charged the insurance co. $1500. Getting RT > now,(22 down....18 to go). Is the Eligaard useless? If so would they > pay me or the insurance co? > In the interest of accuracy, please note that the correct spelling is "Eligard." One "a".
Eligard is leuprolide acetate, as is Lupron. I'm unsure of what the difference is supposed to be, but suspect that it has something to do with the difference in dosage as between Europe and the USA. But won't bet on it.
Regards,
Steve J
dave481 - 12 Aug 2006 13:50 GMT In the interest of accuracy, please note that the correct spelling is "Eligard." One "a".
My literary apologies Steve. For some reason I thought I had read 2 a's in the Dr. office. Eyesight hasn't been so great lately-:) Thanks for the reply David
> > Alan, they gave me *Eligaard*, which I think is Lupron, according to > > you guys here at ascp. They charged the insurance co. $1500. Getting RT [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Steve J MAS - 12 Aug 2006 05:18 GMT I have taken Eligard for two years. The main difference is that it is given in the arm instead of the hip. The consistancy is thinner. One of the difficult things about Lupron is that if you are skin and bones, it is real hard to give whereas Eligard is not. One otehr benefit is that hot flashes are not as severe. I went from 10 a day to maybe one and most days none.
gd
> Alan, they gave me *Eligaard*, which I think is Lupron, according to > you guys here at ascp. They charged the insurance co. $1500. Getting RT [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] >> >> Alan
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