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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate Cancer / August 2006I'm serious
IP said "I don't know at what age the threat of irreversibility becomes significant, but if I were "old" and contemplating ADT, I'd find out." So how old is old? When we were twenty we thought fifty was old and 60 really was old, but since most of us are baby boomers - just what is old age? When will we be old? I have friends in their late 70's and I don't think of them as OLD, yes they are older but they are not OLD. So what is old? Bev > IP said "I don't know at what age the threat of irreversibility becomes > significant, but if I were "old" and contemplating ADT, I'd find out." [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > old? > Bev Old is when everyone in the room is younger than you are.  SignatureJK Sinrod www.SinrodStudios.com www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com > Old is when everyone in the room is younger than you are. Some years ago, I had visited my mother in the hospital, and was riding the elevator down. Two young people got on, deep in a quiet and earnest discussion. I guessed that they were in high school, or college sophomores, tops. Then I caught a bit of what they were saying and felt really old. They were doctors, discussing the best way to treat a patient they had just seen. Ernest Gudath In the context of that discussion I think I.P. meant "old" in the sense of remaining life expectancy. E.g. back when 50 was "old" the life expectancy may have been, say, 70, so "old" was 20 years left. If today expectancy is 80 then 60 would be "old" by the same yardstick. It has nothing to do w/ how old you act or look (except as that reflects general health). W/ Christie Brinkley in the news lately, and she being 51, I have to say I did reflect back on my mother at that age. She was indeed "old." Bill Denton RP 2/12/02 PSA ? Memphis > In the context of that discussion I think I.P. meant "old" in the sense > of remaining life expectancy. In this case, "old' is by definition that age when we are at measurable risk of not recovering pre-ADT T levels after ceasing ADT. i.e., the age at which ADT effects, side or intended, may not be reversible simply by stopping the ADT chemicals. I.P. When people around you identify you as "old man" instead of "look at that man" colophony > IP said "I don't know at what age the threat of irreversibility becomes > significant, but if I were "old" and contemplating ADT, I'd find out." [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > old? > Bev > When people around you identify you as "old man" instead of "look at that > man" > colophony >> IP said "I don't know at what age the threat of irreversibility becomes >> significant, but if I were "old" and contemplating ADT, I'd find out." My teeshirt today says, "acting my shoe size since the 6th grade".... I'm still old at 56 because my dream of pitching in the majors will never happen. SignatureJK Sinrod www.SinrodStudios.com www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com Bev, for me it was the day, in my very early 30's, I went to a major university to see my youngest sister. It was the first time I realized I was invisible to the co-ed students. I became "old" that day. David > IP said "I don't know at what age the threat of irreversibility becomes > significant, but if I were "old" and contemplating ADT, I'd find out." [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > old? > Bev > I was invisible to the co-ed students. I became "old" that day. Damn - by that measure I have been old since age 12! SignaturePeter Headland Or similarly, when you're real young, like 6 years old, pretty young women smile at you as they pass on the street. That doesn't happen again until you're as harmless as the six year old. Then you're old. Dave Perry > Bev, for me it was the day, in my very early 30's, I went to a major > university to see my youngest sister. It was the first time I realized [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > old? > > Bev >Or similarly, when you're real young, like 6 years old, pretty young >women smile at you as they pass on the street. That doesn't happen [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> > old? >> > Bev "Old" is when they automatically grant you a senior discount without your having to ask. >>> > So how old is old? When we were twenty we thought fifty was old >>> > and 60 really was old, but since most of us are baby boomers - >>> > just what is old age? When will we be old? I have friends in their >>> > late 70's and I don't think of them as OLD, yes they are older but >>> > they are not OLD. So what is old? Bev<<<<<< > "Old" is when they automatically grant you a senior discount without > your having to ask. Now that is one I can identify with, lol!! OLD is also when the young pups that work in the local supermarket call you "ma'am", hold the door open for you, and offer to take the groceries to your car without asking!! Or on my last airline flight (2 weeks ago), the young lad at check-in politely insisted I use a wheel chair to get to the plane!! Damn.....they would NOT believe it was an old football injury!! ROFL!! Turned out to be water on the right knee and a torn Achilles tendon on the left leg....man, I was hobbling something fierce and in a lot of pain!! Note to Self....Do NOT try Soca dancing with a bunch of West Indians AGAIN!! Until you get back in shape, old lady!! (VBG) Hobblin' Heather Hello Beverly, and Thank God,. we are never too old. We are too young at the first, questioning, at the 2nd, and on the third.... Never too old. Keep trying, I am not sure why you question? Old is when you do not question.... Thanks for the Question.....? John Loomis aftr 7 years, I get yet another blood let. I am so tired of the stuff. I have to move on. > IP said "I don't know at what age the threat of irreversibility becomes > significant, but if I were "old" and contemplating ADT, I'd find out." [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > old? > Bev > Hello Beverly, and Thank God,. we are never too old. > We are too young at the first, questioning, at the 2nd, and on the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > aftr 7 years, I get yet another blood let. > I am so tired of the stuff. I have to move on. You're what? 56? That's awful young to move on. Back in November 1999, you probably thought you were going to spend the first few years of the New Millennia fighting, and probably losing to, your Gleason 8 cancer. Instead, you kicked its a.s and all you're doing is getting stuck once a year. If by, "move on" you mean you are going to forget about cancer for 364 days a year, I think I would tend to agree with you; though I'd miss your presence here. But, if you mean forget you had cancer and not keep an annual eye on it, I'd not recommend it. A few years ago I went to an Ole Miss football game w/ a younger buddy who had moved to Oxford (Miss.), home of a plethora of beautiful young women. Partying in The Grove prior to the game he spied a hot young thing and said he knew her because she worked out at the same gym as he. Because he wanted to impress me he wanted to go talk to her. All puffed up, he went up and said, Hi, [her name], having fun? She said ... "Yes sir." A dagger to the heart would have been preferable to that blow. Bill Denton RP 2/12/02 PSA .96 Memphis |
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