hi mike - the books do talk about peyronie's after RP surgery, but
here's what interesting also.

it is a fact that men in the 50's, 60's and beyond without any kind of
surgery also fall victum to this disease.

there are various reasons given as to they why it happens.  there is
also good news in that quite a few times, from the ones who get it from
surgery, the problem will straighten itself out.  sorry about the pun,
but it's true.  remember in the book, to make love again, and they had
to deal with that issue.

bottom line, all is not lost and it is not without hope.  i had this
disease for many years and it finally went away.  why?  science doesn't
know.  so, far, i've had many things go wrong, but that isn't one them
---------- yet!!!!!

mike - hang in there.  things will work themselves out.  it's the
waiting that is the problem.

~ curtis

knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional

Well I do already know all that.  I think your impending unemployment is the
root of your depression.

You need to get into the educational consulting business, write
distance-learning courses, grade papers, teach adult education, teach
literacy, teach English as a Second Language, do online or telephone
tutoring, something like that.  You've got what it takes.

jimhoney
not a teacher, admirer of those who are

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There is probably a definite connection.  This might shed some light
on about the Peyronies problem.

In my case willie bulges on one side and swings around slightly in the
opposite direction.  In addition to that, there is some discomfort.

I diagnosed the problem and my urologist agreed that this was because
there is a marked leakeage of the blood supply that creates the
erection on the side that causes this.  This problem will probably get
better, but has not gone away.

Viagra has not worked so I opted for the vaccum device.  With this
method the bulge and discomfort is non existant.  I have no doubt that
it is the only thing that will work for me.

Bob Austin

Age 74
PSA 7 Free PSA 12
1st round of biopsies clear, 2nd. 2 positives
Gleason 9
Cryosurgery 03/11/03
Post Op PSA's .04 & .01
RobertBob.Austin@NoSpam.Att.Net

hi bill - i asked my surgeon almost word for word those type of
questions.  

his answer - when we go into the body to remove the cancer.  i told you
that we know where the nerve bundles are and i told you that there were
micro nerves that we can not see.  the cutting reeks havoc with the body
and who's to say what micro nerves are cut.  each case is different
because we have to go in the direction the cancer has grown, which is
why the different results.  work on the erections, take the 100mg at bed
time.

question doc, you only give me two pills a month and the directions say
cut them in cut?

yeah, 50 mg is not going to do it. you need to take the whole 100mg to
get the full effect.

ok, doc.  like i said, you only write the script for 2 pills a month,
that leaves 28 more days left.  

that is all the gov't will allow us to write the script for - 2 pills.

am i missing something here doc?  you're telling me to take 100mg every
night before bed and give me 2 pills a month to do the job.  it doesn't
make any sense.

yes, i know.  it's the gov't for you.

end of discussion.

bill, the surgeon indicated that in the cutting of those micro nerves
that has to do with the fantasy erection process, because if you look in
dr. walsh's book, not only do you have the micro nerves going around
inside the body of where the surgeon cut, but according to dr. walsh's
book, the pictures show nerve bundles  going into the prostate that are
cut and tied off and i'm sure there are micro nerves as well that are
cut..  we got a lot of feedback from the prostate gland itself, in
different levels of excitement and the surgeon did say that the prostate
is the orgasm center for the male as far as feedback.

as to dr. walsh's comments, he states that direct contact is what is
needed and you need to 'talk' to the penis directly, indicating no
fantasy.  so, we can only assume that those nerve pathways are cut and
may or may not grow back.

~ curtis

knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional

  I've been told that it does keep geting better.... I am hoping for return
to normalcy in another year or so but..... if it stays this way forever,
it's still better than having cancer!