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juniper - 30 May 2006 15:31 GMT
Our neighbor is getting a perineal prostatectomy.  Why would that be?
What are the advantages?  I thought it was worse in the areas of
completeness, nerve sparing, recovery and such.  I thought it was an
old, un-used technique supplanted by retropubic prostatectomy.  He is
normal size, not fat.  Any ideas?  Are people getting this surgery?  I
wonder if it could be the surgeon only knows that old style?  Makes me
grateful we went to the city.  TIA for any comments. laurel
juniper - 31 May 2006 02:28 GMT
> Our neighbor is getting a perineal prostatectomy.  Why would that be?
> What are the advantages?  I thought it was worse in the areas of
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> wonder if it could be the surgeon only knows that old style?  Makes me
> grateful we went to the city.  TIA for any comments. laurel

found this on emedicine.com
Today, many men diagnosed with prostate cancer have early-stage disease
for which PLND (pelvic lymph node dissection) is not mandatory.
Consequently, the interest in radical perineal prostatectomy has seen a
resurgence. Radical perineal prostatectomy can be performed with less
blood loss, operative time, hospitalization, and patient convalescence
than radical retropubic prostatectomy.

Guess I was wrong.  Still....
richk - 31 May 2006 17:06 GMT
Less blood loss for perineal compared to retropubic is the main advantage.
The disadvantage is that sparing of nerves is more challenging than
perineal.

IMHO, the skill of the surgeon is more important than than the technique.
There are some surgeons that specialize in perineal.  I did consult with
one but found an artist in retropubic and wanted the best chance for nerve
sparing (only age 50 at surgery)...
Ron B - 31 May 2006 17:15 GMT
Laurel, I trust you'll get good answers from the smarter guys...from
what I've learned HERE...it wasn't done all that much and usually for
the obese.

I am always ready to stand corrected by the folks here.

Best wishes to everyone,

Ron B.

Chicago
Justin Case - 31 May 2006 20:13 GMT
: Our neighbor is getting a perineal prostatectomy.  Why would that be?
: What are the advantages?  I thought it was worse in the areas of
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
: wonder if it could be the surgeon only knows that old style?  Makes me
: grateful we went to the city.  TIA for any comments. laurel

In my case the perineal procedure was the only realistic option.  My PSA was
high and there were indications that the capsule in which the prostate is
contained had ruptured or begun to rupture.

Age was another consideration.  I was 71 at the time and frankly, my sexual
life was almost over.  My surgeon had my wife and me in a room and he
interviewed us both, giving us to understand what the consequences would be.
When I asked about the retropubic procedure he told me that it wasn't a
realistic option.

Surgery itself was quick, little blood loss, recovery time in the hospital:
overnight.  I believe my surgeon was equally skilled in both RPP and RRP (he
told me he had performed several hundred prostatectomies).  He was a young
man (at my age anyone under 50  is very young), retired from the army where
he served at Fort Bliss, Texas, with the rank of Lt. Col.  I read the
diplomas on his wall and was satisfied that he was the man I wanted.  Except
for the obvious disadvantage now (alluded to earlier) I am satisfied that he
did an excellent job.  My PSA has held at <0.1 for more than four years.

Ken Bland
Clarence Crow - 31 May 2006 23:18 GMT
>Our neighbor is getting a perineal prostatectomy.  Why would that be?
>What are the advantages?  I thought it was worse in the areas of
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>wonder if it could be the surgeon only knows that old style?  Makes me
>grateful we went to the city.  TIA for any comments. laurel

Some say you need to find a Surgeon who's done 100 PPs.

Would you feel nervous if you were No. 101?

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Tdub - 01 Jun 2006 05:45 GMT
I had 2 bladder neck resection procedures and 1 AMS 800 sphincter
implant from Dr. Laurence Levine at Rush in Chicago. (He was listed as
one of the top 10 or so urologists in Chicago by his peers.) He did
nice work and I am very happy. Dr. Levine uses the PP approach and says
(in his opinion), it is better than RP. I wish I had had my
prostatectomy done by him.
Ron B - 01 Jun 2006 17:06 GMT
Hi Tdub.

How's the AMS 800 doing?

I hope well.

Best of everything,

Ron B.

Chicago
Tdub - 02 Jun 2006 03:57 GMT
Thanks for your thoughts, fellow Northsider. Go Sox! AMS 800 is a
godsend, and near perfect.
 
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