How many needles were used, Jay?

Even if there were, any PC you have began growing decades ago; a few
frog's lips and pomegranate smoothies ain't gonna halt your cancer in
4-6 years, let alone 4-6 months. At best it might artificially lower
your PSA, HIDING any PC you may have.

I.P.

Jay,

Its so complicated.  Biopsies are not all that accurate.  My husband
showed very tiny amounts of cancer in 2/10 cores but it turns out that
cancer was extensive throughout and outside his prostate (his PSA was
in the 20s).  So it would be easy to miss cancer in a biopsy. You can't
really say you *do* or *don't* have prostate cancer with those results.
The only thing that would be unequivocal would be if it did find it.

I'm assuming you know about getting a 2nd opinion on the biopsy
samples?  From a PCa specialist pathologist.

The thing is, you need lots of information, sorting through it to make
an educated guess about the liklihood.  The free PSA is iffy, huh?
Drag.  So far, all we know (a PSA of 8.8, no dates, and a biopsy that
did not confirm cancer) are iffy.   Why don't you post your history, so
the guys in the group have something to look at as far as your current
information.  You would be more likely to get useful responses. This
would mean
1. List all your PSA tests, month, year, and #.  What did your DREs
show?
2. Post the results of your pathology report from the biopsy.  1 small
% of atypia cells in one sample might be different from atypia found
throughout.

As far as diet and supplements, you can look at www.lef.org and the
site below.  The body does fight and kill cancer cells, and I think you
can help it do that even now, even if you did have PCa.  It may not be
enough by itself to get all the cancer, if you do have cancer, but if
you get even a % increase in chances, go for it.  It only makes sense
to do all you can, and to give your body the tools it needs for health.
I disagree that going on a healthy diet will only mask PSA.  Many men
have managed PCa and PSAs with diet, some more or less successfully.
Can Diet Really Control Prostate Cancer?
http://www.prostate-cancer.org/education/nutrprod/ScholzBlum_Nutrition_Prostate_
Cancer.html
or http://tinyurl.com/hmtyh

Regards, laurel

On May 26, Jay inquired:

(snip)

On May 23, Jon Epstein, MD, presented a paper at the AUA meeting
entitled, "Significance of PIN, Atypia and Atrophy on Prostate Biopsy."

Jay might find it to be of interest. See:
http://www.urotoday.com/prod/contents/common/print.asp?cat=prosCan&sid=&tid=&aid=4988

Or, better: http://tinyurl.com/p5d56

Regards,

Steve J

There are many opinions about diet and prostate cancer, but
few hard facts.  A lot of research has been published that says
that putting such and such a chemical in a test tube with cancer
cells kills off some of the cancer.  Then there are experiments
with mice where some cancer is killed with some supplements.

But studies in people are less conclusive.  Knowing that a
particular supplement kills cancer cells in a test tube or a mouse
doesn't prove it will in humans, in part because many things can
happen to the supplement that keep it from affecting, or even
reaching, the cancer cells in humans.

Nevertheless, I believe in playing the odds.  Claims have been
made for lycopene (e.g., in tomato juice and watermelon), vitamin
E, selenium, EGCG, turmeric and some other supplements with
good support from test tube and mouse studies.  As long as the
supplements and dosages are safe (for example vitamin E and
selenium are _not_ safe when taken in very large quantity) why
not take them?  They don't cost a lot and some (lycopene, EGCG
from green tea, turmeric) have been used, apparently very safely,
for centuries.

I think it was Steve Jordan who once said on this newsgroup that
in any given patient there is a certain rate of cell division and growth
among cancer cells, and a certain rate of cell death among
cancer cells.  If the two are close, maybe we can tip the scales
one way or the other with proper diet and lifestyle.

   Alan