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John Loomis - 18 May 2006 02:43 GMT
Hello,
   I went into the internet, and with suggestions purchased generic viagra
from, www.xlpharmacy.com.
The price for 34 pills, 100 mgs. was the same for buying 10 pills here in
USA.  What is up?
If the generic drug, Viagra, Sidenfel....comes as advertised, and is the
real thing, I am very surprised why not only do I need to see a Dr. and pay
more, for the same thing here?
It is confusing.  I was paying for 100 mgs.....over $124.00 at Longs Drugs.
for 10 pills.
   The Cost from www.xlpharmacy.com is a lot less for 34 pills.
I am really wandering what is up, and why in USA we pay more and when we buy
online, and supposedly get the same, we pay less......
I am very confused..........
Oh well,
John Loomis
dave481 - 18 May 2006 04:41 GMT
John,  a friend of mine did this, Said it was an off shore outfit. He
was taking a big chance, even getting narcotic painkillers. After about
two years he had ordered about $400.00 dollars of "v" and Lortabs, got
an e-mail saying US customs had his order. The credit card company
honored the transaction, he'd waited too long. Lost his money, but
Customs or DEA never showed up. Ironically. I hadn't talked to him in
years, he called tonight, I got this info from him while reading yoour
post!
David
p.s. be careful
Heather - 18 May 2006 05:10 GMT
I can answer parts of this as a Canadian, but do be careful coz your
customs/DEA are taking the much-needed meds away from ordinary folks.  I
know this from a friend in Pennsylvania.  He gets his sent from Europe
now, but he orders from Canada.  I assume that is to get around the
border confiscation.

Our drugs are safe.....hell, they come from the US usually.  But Canada
caps the rate at what the drug companies can charge.  That basically is
the reason why they are so much cheaper here.  Big Pharma doesn't like
that, nor do they like the border pharmacies and have threatened to stop
supplying us with Lipitor, etc.  But those pharmacies are not regular
Cdn. ones.  Probably owned and staffed by Americans.  The lack of a
prescription concerns me.

I can see the DEA going after narcotics.....but not viagra.  My Penn.
friend is merely ordering Lipitor for high cholesterol.  But your
friend's story sounds a bit odd.  Perhaps there is more to it.  However,
I do know that sometimes the parcels are empty when they arrive on your
red, white & blue doorstep.

The only answer is to start petitioning and making a lot of noise over
Big Pharma ripping you guys off.   No way should you be paying 2 or 4
tmes what I pay for the same pill made in the US of A by the likes of
Pfizer, etc.  (which drugs, according to Bush, are not safe....yeah,
right)

And a proviso here for the 2 that will argue with me.  Our prescriptions
are not covered by the Government Healthcare Plan under 65, .....what I
paid was what they cost.  (or did till I got OLD and got Senior's
Benefits).

Cheers....Heather

> John,  a friend of mine did this, Said it was an off shore outfit. He
> was taking a big chance, even getting narcotic painkillers. After
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> David
> p.s. be careful
Steve Kramer - 18 May 2006 11:55 GMT
> And a proviso here for the 2 that will argue with me.

If I am one of the two you are considering for an argument, sorry to
disappoint.  How could I possibly argue all the evidence you presented?  You
cinched it for me when you told us about that unnamed friend in
Pennsylvania.  Compelling!

;-)

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Heather - 18 May 2006 17:57 GMT
>> And a proviso here for the 2 that will argue with me.
>
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>
> ;-)

LOL!!  You were NOT one of the two.  And I was not about to put Art's
full name out here because your DEA/FBI/CIA/et al is tracking folks who
buy from cross-border pharmacies.  God forbid that any American should
be allowed to buy US-made drugs from Canada at a lower cost than in the
US.....

I have a better idea....send the *sniffer people* down to your southern
border instead of the National Guard.

Talk about shutting the barn door AFTER, etc.  (VBG)

Sra. Figgs
Steve Kramer - 19 May 2006 00:10 GMT
> LOL!!  You were NOT one of the two.  And I was not about to put Art's full
> name out here because your DEA/FBI/CIA/et al is tracking folks who buy
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Talk about shutting the barn door AFTER, etc.  (VBG)

Aside from the ridiculous notion that the FBI or CIA could give a damn about
pharmaceuticals coming over any border, I agree with you 100%.

Considering Usama Bin Laden and his minions' actions in the last 25 years,
there should not be a federal agency that is not 100% focused on terrorists
and drugs coming from the south and terrorists and liberals from the north.

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RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA  .1  .1  .1  .27  .37  .75
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA  .34 .22 .15 .21 .32
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05, 5/05, 10/05,
2/06
PSA  .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132
Non Illegitimi Carborundum

Heather - 19 May 2006 01:33 GMT
>> LOL!!  You were NOT one of the two.  And I was not about to put Art's
>>  >>full name out here because your DEA/FBI/CIA/et al is tracking folks
>>  >>who buy from cross-border pharmacies.

>> I have a better idea....send the *sniffer people* down to your
>> southern border instead of the National Guard.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> on terrorists and drugs coming from the south and terrorists and
> liberals from the north.<<<

Awww.....you are such a cute 330 lb. teddy bear!!  I bet there are a few
folks on here who think you are being totally serious!!  ROFL!!

Look out, los Americanos.....the Liberals are invading and they are
bringing down our superior *socialist health plan*....(G)

Cheers, amigo......Figgs
Alan Meyer - 18 May 2006 15:25 GMT
The reason we pay more is that we pay monopoly prices in
the U.S.  The company that patents a drug gets sole rights
to produce and sell it here and they price the product based
on demand.  If the demand is high, the price can be 10, 20,
or more times the manufacturing cost.  This is true not only
for Viagra, but also for some drugs, like Lupron, that people
need to stay alive.

In the case of Viagra, there are now a couple of legal alternatives,
but the demand is so high and people are so willing to pay,
that the companies have decided to compete on "features"
and advertising rather than on price.  They can make more
money dividing up the market at super-inflated prices than
by driving the price down by competition.  If I were running
the anti-trust branch of the Justice Department, I'd investigate
this.

As I understand it, the imported stuff can be one of two
things.  It may be real sildenifil, manufactured in India, which
does not recognize U.S. patents, or it can be sugar pills,
herbs, or floor sweepings manufactured in some basement
somewhere.

The Indian pills are probably identical to the American
manufactured pills.  But how can you tell that you're
getting them and not some placebo substitute that may
or may not even by hygienically safe?

It's a real problem for us American consumers.

   Alan
Doug Taylor - 18 May 2006 17:03 GMT
>The Indian pills are probably identical to the American
>manufactured pills.  But how can you tell that you're
>getting them and not some placebo substitute that may
>or may not even by hygienically safe?

In the case of http://www.xlpharmacy.com/, the way to tell is, ah,
hmmm, well...<<wink, wink, nudge, nudge>>...
MikeinTexas - 18 May 2006 19:46 GMT
Hello John

I have a friend that orders from http://www.alldaychemist.com in India and
gets excellent service. I just talked to him in regards to this posting and
he mentioned that his orders arrive in about fourteen days. Regarding
effectiveness, they are just as effective as the real enchilada and the
price is dirt cheap. I forgot to ask him about shipping costs but the
generic Sildenafil Citrate is "Manly" made by Copper Pharma I believe. The
prices on the web site are 100mg 120 for $64.20 or 100mg 60 for $32.10 along
with other generic Viagra brands at various pricing. I understand the
concern about getting some batch made in a dirty bathtub next to a sewer
line however the reputable Indian manufacturers are just as reliable as
those in the U.S. and I know my friend has been using the above offshore
pharmacy for three years.

Dr. Reddy's Labs is just one Indian generic manufacturer whose stock trades
on the NYSE symbol RDY.( http://www.drreddys.com/ ) or
http://www.ranbaxy.com  is another. Still, caution is always prudent as I
suppose it's always possible to have a bad batch get into the supply chain.

Another small risk you might run is that your package gets inspected by
customs, but due to the volume involved, the majority is passed on without
opening. Even if it is opened, we're not talking about narcotics here, so it
should be resealed and sent on. Just to be fair, it might also be seized and
that leaves you out of pills and possibly money depending on the online web
policy. I would be interested in hearing about other readers experiences
with offshore pharma's also. Personally, my insurance will supply me with 18
100mg Viagra pills for $40 which is considered a ninety day supply. My
Urologist suggested I cut them in half and take three times a week.

MikeinTexas

> Hello,
>    I went into the internet, and with suggestions purchased generic viagra
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Oh well,
> John Loomis
Glassman - 21 May 2006 23:42 GMT
> Hello,
>     I went into the internet, and with suggestions purchased generic viagra
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Oh well,
> John Loomis

  John you can buy a pack of batteries at 7-11 for $9.99, or the same at
Walmart for $4.99. If we keep putting pressure on the US by buying from
Canada, maybe they'll reduce their "greed" margin and be forced to compete?

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