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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate Cancer / May 2006hello all and God bless, question about post RP
I haven't heard of this, but it might be common. There is a whole lot that was unknown to me that is common knowledge on this group. I haven't seen this one. Right after the catheter was removed post RP. (Approximately two weeks) I noticed my urine was very oily. For maybe five days. almost like clear gun oil or light grade sewing machine oil. Last week I had a dilation because I could not pee anymore. They took the catheter out friday, peeing just fair to meddlin today. But it's oily again. Just now 11:59 pm 05/06/06 I noticed oil IN my urine. Shiny, globules floating on the surface of the toilet. It was real oily last night. Has this happened to anyone? Thank-you David >I haven't heard of this, but it might be common. There is a whole lot > that was unknown to me that is common knowledge on this group. I [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Thank-you > David I've not heard of it. I wonder if it's more slimey, than oily. If the former, I'd suspect infection. But, that's speculation. The salient answer, I did not experience this and do not recall anyone describing such an experience on this NG.  SignaturePSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46 Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins PSA .1 .1 .1 .27 .37 .75 EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47 PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05, 5/05, 10/05, 2/06 PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 Non Illegitimi Carborundum No, Steve, I wouldn't call it slimy. It's very clear, always more of it a few days after the catheter has been taken out. Now, what I see is very clear, shiny, clean looking even. Floating almost like different size balls on the toilet water. > No, Steve, I wouldn't call it slimy. It's very clear, always more of it > a few days after the catheter has been taken out. Now, what I see is > very clear, shiny, clean looking even. Floating almost like different > size balls on the toilet water. I can't imagine. Sure will be interesting to find out what it is. The only gland that should be still connected is the cowper gland. But, if that's the one producing your oily substance, I'd say it's in hyper-drive. SignaturePSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46 Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins PSA .1 .1 .1 .27 .37 .75 EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47 PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05, 5/05, 10/05, 2/06 PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 Non Illegitimi Carborundum Hi Dave...I haven't a clue, but wonder if it could possibly be from the dissolving sutures?..Ron <Hi Dave...I haven't a clue, but wonder if it could possibly be from the dissolving sutures?..Ron > Ron, that is a distinct possibility. I don't know why they would be oily, but maybe that's the way they leave now. It's always been AFTER some trauma in there and the removal of the catheter. I never saw it come out of the foley bag. David Dave...Dissolvable sutures are made from organic polymers like nylon. In the body, these polymers hydrolyze, or break down, into smaller molecules (the polymer chain breaks down into smaller chains) that lose mechanical integrity and "wash" away. Like the initial polymer, the smaller units are stll organics. Since organics like nylon are insoluble in water they, and their breakdown products, would form globules in water. Still, just a wild guess...Ron > Dave...Dissolvable sutures are made from organic polymers like nylon. > In the body, these polymers hydrolyze, or break down, into smaller [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > insoluble in water they, and their breakdown products, would form > globules in water. Still, just a wild guess...Ron Ron, This is a great wild guess. I have no idea if it's accurate. I would think it's not because no one else seems to have experienced this. However, it is marvellously convincing. Dave, Have you asked your doctor about this? If you put a bit of it in a bottle, would he be willing to look at it or have it tested? Alan Well, this was bothering me so I did a search. Apparently it is not unknown. Lots of refernces to physicians like Hippocrates, and others of his age. Also homeopathic remedies. So, that's a relief. Kidney infections can travel up from urine infections. And you have just had a doozy of an infection. They need to be found early and dealt with quickly. I am just reading a Haldol site, it is an oily injection given to chemically restrain people, and it sasy "about 1%" of an injected dose passes unchagned (oily, obviously) into the urine. I'm sure you didn't get haldol, but maybe it is those unknown chemo drugs. > (Approximately two weeks) I noticed my urine was very oily. For maybe > five days. almost like clear gun oil or light grade sewing machine oil. http://tinyurl.com/husno (from PubMed) Mineral seal oil excreted in urine. Wasserman GS, Green VA, Sharma V. There is a paucity of reported cases demonstrating the gastrointestinal absorption and renal excretion of mineral seal oil, a petroleum distillate. In 1972, a teenager attempted suicide by purposely ingesting an entire 8 ounce bottle of furniture polish containing 99% mineral seal oil. She arrived in the F.R. two hours post-ingestion and was lavaged with two liters of normal saline and given two ounces of mineral oil and 20 ml of 50% magnesium sulfate by the tube. The stomach contents were yellow, thick, oily, and smelled like furniture polish. She was admitted for psychiatric evaluation and observation for the ingestion. The patient did not suffer any respiratory or CNS complications. However, she excreted oil droplets which coalasced to form an oil layer in her urine! She suffered no kidney damage or abnormality as could be detected by routine renal function studies. Pictures revealing oil in the urine will be shown. > I haven't heard of this, but it might be common. There is a whole lot > that was unknown to me that is common knowledge on this group. I [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Thank-you > David There's your answer Dave - you gotta kick that furniture polish habit of yours! :-) SignaturePeter Headland |
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