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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate Cancer / April 2006Lurker no more
My name is David, in Melbourne Australia. In August 05 routine tests discovered a PSA of 9, which rose to 19 after 2 months. Ultrasound & DRE were negative, biopsy found cancer. Gleason 3/4 or 4/3. I had a radical prostatectomy on March 8th. Staples removed after 1 week, catheter after 2 weeks. The surgeon said the op went smoothly, with all the cancer appearing to have been removed. Blood test last Wednesday, result as yet unknown. What can be done to encourage functionality to return? Or is it just a case of waiting and hoping? Is there info on this that I can access? David K. > My name is David, in Melbourne Australia. > In August 05 routine tests discovered a PSA of 9, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Or is it just a case of waiting and hoping? > Is there info on this that I can access? Incontenence or impotence? Or both? Most of us have both right after surgery. Incontinence is best handled with kegel exercises. There are two schools of thought on these. You can either stop and start your stream while urinating (my uro hates this one) or exercise your pelvic floor. I do not have a good description for this, but you can find it many places on the Internet. Impotence is best handled through continuous stimulation and moderate use of small doses of Viagra or other such meds. Or, at least that seems to be the newest thing. Take a quart Viagra each night and stimulate the penis at other times and, before long, you start getting erections. In my case, this technique was not known at the time. I tried Viagra and it didn't work. I tried shots and it worked well once and not so well other times. I tried the pump with varying success. Then, one day, 2½ years after my prostate surgery, he came out to play all on his own. --- go figure. The moral of the story is just play with it a lot and eventually, he'll come out to see the light.  SignaturePSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46 Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins PSA .1 .1 .1 .27 .37 .75 EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47 PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05, 5/05, 10/05, 2/06 PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 Non Illegitimi Carborundum > Take a quart Viagra each night and stimulate the penis A quart of Viagra...I'd be as tall as the Empire State Building. ;) >> Take a quart Viagra each night and stimulate the penis > > A quart of Viagra...I'd be as tall as the Empire State Building. ;) Neither I or my wife see a problem with this... *vbg* You could be a human 'Washington Monument' (For our international members (pun intended), see http://bensguide.gpo.gov/3-5/symbols/print/wmonument_pool.html KenA > Take a quart Viagra each night YEOWWW!!! I meant "quarter of a" Viagra. If you take a quart, your penis will explode. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Kramer" <skramer@cinci.rr.com> Newsgroups: alt.support.cancer.prostate Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 10:07 PM Subject: Re: Lurker no more > My name is David, in Melbourne Australia. > In August 05 routine tests discovered a PSA of 9, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Or is it just a case of waiting and hoping? > Is there info on this that I can access? Incontenence or impotence? Or both? Most of us have both right after surgery. Incontinence is best handled with kegel exercises. There are two schools of thought on these. You can either stop and start your stream while urinating (my uro hates this one) or exercise your pelvic floor. I do not have a good description for this, but you can find it many places on the Internet. Impotence is best handled through continuous stimulation and moderate use of small doses of Viagra or other such meds. Or, at least that seems to be the newest thing. Take a quart Viagra each night and stimulate the penis at other times and, before long, you start getting erections. In my case, this technique was not known at the time. I tried Viagra and it didn't work. I tried shots and it worked well once and not so well other times. I tried the pump with varying success. Then, one day, 2½ years after my prostate surgery, he came out to play all on his own. --- go figure. The moral of the story is just play with it a lot and eventually, he'll come out to see the light. +++++++++ Both problems exist. Been doing all that with great enthusiasm :) I feel I'd rather avoid viagra unless it definitely will assist, without undesirable side effects. What are the facts, and are they definite or just a current view? Re erections. If a partial erection is achieved, is that necessarily a good sign, or can manual stimulation without a functioning nerve do that too? Do erections usually return gradually or in one fell swoop? Hope I'm making sense! David I would be interested too in finding out if erections return gradually or at one fell swoop: My RP took place on january 19 and no sign of spontaneous erections. Colophony > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Kramer" <skramer@cinci.rr.com> [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > > David > I would be interested too in finding out if erections return gradually or at > one fell swoop: My RP took place on january 19 and no sign of spontaneous > erections. > Colophony > "David Kinston" <a@b.c> ha scritto nel messaggio For me it was very gradual, so much so that it's not really noticeable over a short period of time. I'd say that the improvement curve was as long as 3 years for me. It's still much better with a small bite of a vitamin V. The OP should also know that a limp and dry orgasm is not only possible, but really great. Play as often as you can. Wife/girlfriend optional. JK Sinrod www.sinrodstudios.com www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com PSA result < 0.1 (4 weeks after RP). David > I would be interested too in finding out if erections return gradually or at > one fell swoop: My RP took place on january 19 and no sign of spontaneous > erections. > Colophony > "David Kinston" <a@b.c> ha scritto nel messaggio For me it was very gradual, so much so that it's not really noticeable over a short period of time. I'd say that the improvement curve was as long as 3 years for me. It's still much better with a small bite of a vitamin V. The OP should also know that a limp and dry orgasm is not only possible, but really great. Play as often as you can. Wife/girlfriend optional. JK Sinrod www.sinrodstudios.com www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com > PSA result < 0.1 (4 weeks after RP). > > David That's a good start. Wishing you many, many more. SignaturePSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46 Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins PSA .1 .1 .1 .27 .37 .75 EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47 PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05, 5/05, 10/05, 2/06 PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 Non Illegitimi Carborundum You continue to give me hope, Steve. Though "manipulatiion" and "dry humping" are better than nothing - "he" would still much rather to stand up and be counted. However, after 16 months post op "he" doesn't seem much interested in joining "us"... Just about the time I start getting "down" on the fact he's still in semi-retirement - I remember your 2 1/2 years of "limp"tatude... Nice to see you still helping folks out on this ng... Thanks... PS Viagra and shots are just too expensive for me.. Maybe I'll treat myself to a shot for Christmas next year... "Hey, honey, look what ol' St Nick left us under the tree!!!" (lol) Paul Age: 64 10/04: PSA = 10.4,12 needle biopsy - Gleason 7 (“in a few samples”), T1C 11/04: RP “looks like we got it” - sparing one and a half bundles of nerves 08/05: PSA = less than 0.1 04/06: Good bladder control - no erections (yet) > You continue to give me hope, Steve. Though "manipulatiion" and "dry > humping" are better than nothing - "he" would still much rather to stand [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > myself to a shot for Christmas next year... "Hey, honey, look what ol' St > Nick left us under the tree!!!" (lol) Yeah, it is a shame that having sex costs as much as a hooker. SignaturePSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46 Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins PSA .1 .1 .1 .27 .37 .75 EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47 PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05, 5/05, 10/05, 2/06 PSA .07 .05 .06 .09 .08 .132 Non Illegitimi Carborundum |
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