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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate Cancer / March 2006PING: Bill's Cancer Cure's writer
well, you seem to have set the record is pissing off a lot members here in very short order. first, i'll address the positive - when you posted, you did state that it was an untrue story by putting this in the preface below..... ------ Bill's Cancer Cure is a fictional short story. Any resemblance of any character, place, thing or event in this story to any person present or past or any real place, thing or event is coincidental and unintended. --------- you also have stated that it is copywrited material. you have clearly shown that you have creative abilities with words in writing a story and developing a storyline. ========= now, for the negative....... you comments are NOT very supportive to this newsgroup when a very real person is dealing with a very real situation that can be the difference between life and death by referring to a fictional piece of work as to being the answer..... you clearly showed this when you posted this advice..... Re: Advise after RP failure Group: alt.support.cancer.prostate Date: Mon, Mar 20, 2006, 2:15pm (CST-2) From: billscancercure@yahoo.ca Read Bill's Cancer Cure. and also when you posted this advice.... Re: salvage radiation after RP Group: alt.support.cancer.prostate Date: Mon, Mar 20, 2006, 2:19pm (CST-2) From: billscancercure@yahoo.ca Read Bill's Cancer Cure. ========= when somebody was seeking advice about side effects from a very real treatment they are getting you posted this, but did not document the reason why. first, you've already stated that the story was false and yet, tell them to read to the story. Re: Side effects of chemo therapy Group: alt.support.cancer.prostate Date: Mon, Mar 20, 2006, 2:12pm (CST-2) From: billscancercure@yahoo.ca Cisplatin may cause nerve damage. Read Bill's Cancer Cure. are you a doctor? or do you have some kind of medical degree or background? you will find that we will ask for credits when one makes direct statements here at the newsgroup. when someone states THEIR OPINION about your post. you write back..... -------- Your a fool if you honestly think it is a sales pitch! There is no sales pitch, no store, no web site, and no one is asking for money. You obviously don't care if people die from cancer. This is no joke, it is real, it is free, and hopefully this useful information that will save many lives. ---------- my question at this point, based on your statement, is how is this useful information that will save many lives? please explain..... ------ and probably even more evidence of your temper is shown by the post below..... Re: salvage radiation after RP Group: alt.support.cancer.prostate Date: Mon, Mar 20, 2006, 6:43pm (CST-2) From: billscancercure@yahoo.ca STEVE, You are a FOOL. Bill's Cancer Cure is NOT selling anything. Bill's Cancer Cure is free! How many people will die because you casually misinterpreted Bill's Cancer Cure as a selling ad? ======== at this point, you seem to think that someone who doesn't accept what you have said is a FOOL. ======= as to myself and what i think of this. i'm neutral - at this point. for a person to come into a prostate cancer newsgroup and make a post is something. for a person to offer something that they wrote is willing to share is equally note worthy. but when opinions start getting in the way of real life choices and real life decisions is where i draw the line. if you google back and check out the people that you are calling a fool, you will see that they have quite a bit of knowledge on this subject. so, in my opinion, posting your writings is one thing and i have no problem with that. bringing something positive to the newsgroup. i have no problem with that. but when someone starts making brash statements and not backing them up and not respecting the opinions of others - i have a problem with that. now, if you want to read non fiction about the real life on the use of herbs and various things of the past. you will find this to be interesting reading. http://www.webroots.org/library/usanativ/tcpigth2.html ~ curtis knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional "Many more men die with prostate cancer than of it. Growing old is invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so." http://community.webtv.net/PALMER_ENT/doc You make some very good points. If I upset anyone please accept my apology. As for helping real people, that is exactly my purpose. I said it was fiction and if you are a lawyer then you now why. But, you never seemed to think that Bill's Cancer Cure although fiction may actually be based on fact, on what happened to a real person. What would you do if you were the character "Sam" and the tall tale you told was not a tall tale? > You make some very good points. If I upset anyone please accept my > apology. As for helping real people, that is exactly my purpose. I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > would you do if you were the character "Sam" and the tall tale you told > was not a tall tale? Nothing. Because if the bottom line of the B'sCC tale is that some guy took ginger root and survived PC ... SO WHAT? Thousands of PC pts every year never suffer or die from it, ginger root or no ginger root. Even if some dude's PC were externally visible as he walked down the street, his remission doesn't PROVE anything, so no rational PC pt is well-advised to abandon his RP/RT/ADT for ginger root. Compound that by calling people who could write a credible whole PC book FOOLS and your credibility starts out deep in a hole. I.P. I.P.. >remission doesn't PROVE anything Your right. >so no rational PC pt is well-advised to abandon his RP/RT/ADT for ginger root Your right again. But if you were healthy and in remission, could it be an option? > I.P.. > if you were healthy and in remission, could [ginger] > be an option? If it tastes good, is easy to buy and use, and tests have shown it does no harm and is not useless, I might bother eating a little extra. For example, I make a conscious effort to eat marinara sauce (lycopene) more often than I used to, and I've always liked salsa and stewed tomatoes. But I am not going to burden my life with the pages and books full of supplements and herbs touted as cancer fighters; too many of them have been proved useless or even harmful, I have more faith in the medical community than in the supplement industry, and, most important, I have a life. I.P. Because, Billy, you are full of...IFs... IF my grandmother had balls...she'd be my grandfather. Back to the Arctic son. > IF my grandmother had balls...she'd be my grandfather. Or a Prime Minister of England or Israel. I.P. Ron, Looks like I have been frozen out here. > Ron, > > Looks like I have been frozen out here. And the reasons have been well identified. But since you are trying to back off the rhetoric and ad hominem, few of us have PLONKed you yet. But until you show us scientific large-scale evidence that ginger root fights cancer, that horse is dead. I.P. > back off the rhetoric and ad hominem, few of us have PLONKed you yet. What is PLONKing? >> back off the rhetoric and ad hominem, few of us have PLONKed you yet. > > What is PLONKing? Plonk is a Usenet slang term for adding a particular poster to one's kill file such that the poster's postings are never displayed >> back off the rhetoric and ad hominem, few of us have PLONKed you yet. > > What is PLONKing? The PLONK is the "sound" of entering a miscreant's address in one's filter. I.P. From: billscancercure@yahoo.ca You make some very good points. If I upset anyone please accept my apology. As for helping real people, that is exactly my purpose. I said it was fiction and if you are a lawyer then you now why. But, you never seemed to think that Bill's Cancer Cure although fiction may actually be based on fact, on what happened to a real person. What would you do if you were the character "Sam" and the tall tale you told was not a tall tale? ========= in answering your questions........ you never seemed to think that Bill's Cancer Cure although fiction may actually be based on fact, on what happened to a real person. ------------> someone may have been cured by this style of food or living, and maybe it has probably happened. there was a poster who believed that if they ate grape products, they were being cured. so, they ate any product that had to do with grapes. did it work? don't know. they quit posting after about 3 months. you made a comment in another post, that you a research scientist, you have to be open minded to endless possibilities or you might miss a cure. since you are new at the newsgroup, i'll will extend the courtesy of explaining what is going on. by doing so, you may very well be able to provide help and support to this newsgroup because you may have knowledge of what is going on in the lab that hasn't gone to clinical trial. i've been in this newsgroup since 1995. i've seen new treatments come on the scene that now, are everyday routine operations, such as nerve sparing, LRP's, cryosurgery, and now Hifu. a lot of progress has been made not only in detecting pca, and providing a better cure rate, but also in treatment of advanced pca as well. so, to finish addressing your above question, we ARE VERY OPEN to new procedures and treatments that can provide support against prostate cancer. it's when somebody is making reference to a known false story and saying that it applies to their particular case that upsets people. your other question.... What would you do if you were the character "Sam" and the tall tale you told was not a tall tale? i would say that would great and hopefully, there would ask for documented proof that "sam" was indeed "cured". but until then, it is just a tall tale. now as a researcher, allow me to ask you some questions....... this is not to put you on the spot..... research will say that tomatoes help prevents pca. research will say other foods will prevent cancer. yet, for just about every point that is made in one study, they is documentation of the opposite. they also say this about coffee, salt, and a host of other products. one time, it is good for you, the next time, it is bad. but prostate cancer NEVER gives a single cell. and if you have prostate cancer. today is the best it will ever get without treatment because tomorrow, that cancer has chewed up more cells. this is the war front that we are on and we want to beat this bastard bad. can you shed any light on the war front? ~ curtis knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional "Many more men die with prostate cancer than of it. Growing old is invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so." http://community.webtv.net/PALMER_ENT/doc Curtis, >we ARE VERY OPEN to new procedures and treatments that can provide support against prostate cancer. Good. >making reference to a known false story So it is a fiction. >your other question.... What would you do if you were the character "Sam" and the tall tale you told was not a tall tale? >i would say that would great and hopefully, there would ask for documented proof that "sam" was indeed "cured". but until then, it is just a tall tale. As a scientist, I want documented proof. As a researcher, I must be interested. As a participant, I am thankful. As a sufferer, I am glad to be informed of all options so I can make my own foolish decisions. >now as a researcher, allow me to ask you some questions....... this is not to put you on the spot..... >research will say that tomatoes help prevents pca. >research will say other foods will prevent cancer. >yet, for just about every point that is made in one study, they is documentation of the opposite. >they also say this about coffee, salt, and a host of other products. one time, it is good for you, the next time, it is bad. Experiments can be and usually are difficult. There are many factors involved. Not only the experimental variables, many of which can't be controlled. There is funding, internal politics, empire building, staff turnover, and a myriad of other factors that distort, disrupt, pervert, and influence the process. I suspect that there are many things that have been set aside. Why can things be bad and good for us at the same time? Take coffee as an example. Half the population metabolizes caffeine differently from the other half. Also, coffee has many components that change according to where it is grown, how it is processed and stored, and some of those components are harmful and some are good. Some of the components are good for one thing (maybe cancer prevention) and bad for another (heart). Confused enough? Yes, it is a nightmare. The solution is moderation and variety. Stay away from the obvious bad stuff. >but prostate cancer NEVER gives a single cell. and if you have prostate cancer. today is the best it will ever get without treatment because tomorrow, that cancer has chewed up more cells. this is the war front that we are on and we want to beat this bastard bad. >can you shed any light on the war front? Perhaps, but I won't. My experience on this group has been very negative and stressful. I am sure now that any more input would just attract more ridicule. So Goodbye. "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink." and "God helps those that help themselves." From: billscancercure@yahoo.ca As a scientist, I want documented proof. As a researcher, I must be interested. As a participant, I am thankful. As a sufferer, I am glad to be informed of all options so I can make my own foolish decisions. can you shed any light on the war front? Perhaps, but I won't. My experience on this group has been very negative and stressful. I am sure now that any more input would just attract more ridicule. So Goodbye. ============= i find it interesting that as a researcher, you would be interested in ALL possibilities, but yet, when you quote that your experience has been very negative and stressful, you say "good-bye" might i offer you a suggestion??? you say you can lead a horse to water, but can't make him drink...... yet, did you take the time and make the effort to see what this newsgroup was about. and to see what information has been brought forth before posting? and then......... after the comments were made to you, did you make the effort to see what's going on? here's a tip for you as you have offered the tip for us........ if you are walking down the street and one person walks up to you and says, "you're messed up on your thinking" don't worry about it. but if everyone you meet on the street says, "you messed up on your thinking" then, it's time to go look in the mirror. go back - reread the responses to your posts and reflect..... ~ curtis knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional "Many more men die with prostate cancer than of it. Growing old is invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so." http://community.webtv.net/PALMER_ENT/doc Ya know Bill...as a scientist and researcher...didn't you think it sort of 'unprofessional' to come up with a name like billscancercure? Imagine if someone posted with an addy of Howtogetrichwithnorisk@yahoo.ca To me, not the addy of a financial wizard. |
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