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dave481 - 03 Mar 2006 13:48 GMT
Do they eprform DREs post surgery? I've gathered that, reading the
posts. If they do, why?
The prostate is gone isn't it.? Any PC would be cells in one or another
spot, right? I really don't enjoy DREs. I've never had a cute lil ol
blonde do one, that might put a new twist onit, but I doubt it.
They've started hormonal drugs on me, (casodex and volatrex). I swear,
my voice is a little higher this morning and my pecker is a little
shorter. My tits are softer and bigger, .......who knows I might start
enjoying those DREs. hmmmm ....................yuk!
Leonard Evens - 03 Mar 2006 15:24 GMT
> Do they eprform DREs post surgery? I've gathered that, reading the
> posts. If they do, why?

I think some urologists do them routinely after surgery and some don't.
  If there were a local recurrence of cancer, it might be detectable on
DRE, but normally one would expect to see a significant rise in PSA
before that would happen.  Also, a DRE can sometimes find other
conditions, either on the rectal wall, or in the prostate bed.  Since
the procedure is so easy to do and entails few if any risks for the
patient, it would seem to be prudent to do it from time to time.

My urologist does do a DRE every time I see him.  On occasion he has
medical students there and he asks me if they can do it also.   I am
happy to comply.  I long ago decided it is all just so much plumbing and
since I'm relaxed and used to it, it is not specially uncomfortable.  It
does bother my hemorrhoids a bit on occasion, but I feel I should do my
part in furthering medical education.

My primary care physician is happy to skip that part of the exam and
leave it to my urologist.

> The prostate is gone isn't it.? Any PC would be cells in one or another
> spot, right? I really don't enjoy DREs. I've never had a cute lil ol
> blonde do one, that might put a new twist onit, but I doubt it.

If you are in the right position, the muscles will be relaxed and it
shouldn't hurt.  Of course there are psychological considerations, but
after going through various diagnostic procedures and having had a RP,
I'm so used to being poked and prodded that my old hangups on the
subject are gone.

> They've started hormonal drugs on me, (casodex and volatrex). I swear,
> my voice is a little higher this morning and my pecker is a little
> shorter. My tits are softer and bigger, .......who knows I might start
> enjoying those DREs. hmmmm ....................yuk!
Clarence Crow - 03 Mar 2006 21:32 GMT
<snip>
>My urologist does do a DRE every time I see him.  On occasion he has
>medical students there and he asks me if they can do it also.   I am
>happy to comply.  I long ago decided it is all just so much plumbing and
>since I'm relaxed and used to it, it is not specially uncomfortable.  It
>does bother my hemorrhoids a bit on occasion, but I feel I should do my
>part in furthering medical education.

<snip>
Doncha' just get a little pissed when the Uro frowns and mutters
"H'mm" a nice bunch of haemorrhoids you've got there".

And I say, "I came here for a Prostate "feel"!
Are you a spotter for a Dr. pal, who snips out the piles?"

Have a nice day, unless you've something else planned.

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Steve Kramer - 03 Mar 2006 17:47 GMT
> Do they eprform DREs post surgery? I've gathered that, reading the
> posts. If they do, why?

They continue to feel for anomolies.  Recently, by uro switched to 8-month
DREs.  I was a happy camper.

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DP - 03 Mar 2006 18:24 GMT
>> Do they eprform DREs post surgery? I've gathered that, reading the
>> posts. If they do, why?
>
> They continue to feel for anomolies.  Recently, by uro switched to 8-month
> DREs.  I was a happy camper.

Steve,

You are exactly correct.  One rad oncologist I went to gave me one of the
most thorough DREs I ever had when I was four years post-op. He was trained
as an army doctor, if that makes any difference. The urologist I go to now
has not done one, and I have not mentioned it to him.  After all of this
time, I don't think there will be anything there to feel.

Dale P
Claude - 03 Mar 2006 20:06 GMT
> Do they eprform DREs post surgery? I've gathered that, reading the
> posts. If they do, why?
> The prostate is gone isn't it.? Any PC would be cells in one or another
> spot, right? I really don't enjoy DREs. I've never had a cute lil ol
> blonde do one, that might put a new twist onit, but I doubt it.

You're right---they're still unpleasant.  "Jackie" did my most recent.
Since she was of opposite gender, there had to be an observer.  So not only
was the experience just as unpleasant as with my male uro, but now I had one
of the other women also there watching it all.
Bob C - 03 Mar 2006 22:48 GMT
My urologist explained that he is looking for any changes at the base of the
bladder and where the knob of scar tissue is. He makes it a point to check
it  once a year.
> Do they eprform DREs post surgery? I've gathered that, reading the
> posts. If they do, why?
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> shorter. My tits are softer and bigger, .......who knows I might start
> enjoying those DREs. hmmmm ....................yuk!
Steve Jordan - 03 Mar 2006 23:52 GMT
On March 3, dave481 wrote, in pertinent part:

(snip)
> They've started hormonal drugs on me, (casodex and volatrex).
(snip)

I tried to find volatrex on rxlist.com. No joy, they have no listing.

Please recheck the spelling and advise.

Thanks.

Regards,

Steve J
dave481 - 04 Mar 2006 03:41 GMT
Steve, maybe it was volaDEX. It was in a syringe with a 14 ga. needle.
The stuck it in my stomach, right through the abdomen wall. I just
glanced at the wrapper. the nurse said ,"I have to inject you in the
stomach, it'll hurt, please bear with me>"  It wan't that bad, over
quick.
David
dave481 - 04 Mar 2006 03:41 GMT
Steve, maybe it was volaDEX. It was in a syringe with a 14 ga. needle.
The stuck it in my stomach, right through the abdomen wall. I just
glanced at the wrapper. the nurse said ,"I have to inject you in the
stomach, it'll hurt, please bear with me>"  It wan't that bad, over
quick.
David
dan - 04 Mar 2006 07:00 GMT
Dave,

I think you mean Zoladex, an LHRH agonist, it stops the production of
testosterone.

Have the nurse spray some of the "freezy stuff" on your tummy, the injection
will be almost painless.

Dan

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> Steve, maybe it was volaDEX. It was in a syringe with a 14 ga. needle.
> The stuck it in my stomach, right through the abdomen wall. I just
> glanced at the wrapper. the nurse said ,"I have to inject you in the
> stomach, it'll hurt, please bear with me>"  It wan't that bad, over
> quick.
> David
Steve Jordan - 04 Mar 2006 07:19 GMT
> Dave,
>
> I think you mean Zoladex, an LHRH agonist, it stops the production of
> testosterone.
>  
I believe Dan is correct. There is no "Voladex" listed on rxlist.com.

I note that Dave referred to it as a hormonal drug, and Zoladex could be
so called.

Regards,

Steve J
dave481 - 04 Mar 2006 13:32 GMT
I think you are right, it probably is Zoladex.    Hell, besides turning
me into a woman, now I'm gettin dyslexic. Do the afflictions ever
stop????   LOL
 
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