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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate Cancer / February 2006Prostate Px
http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release_html_b1?release_id=110775 Pretty interesting. Seems that there were a few "breakthroughs" as of late. I'm ambivalent about being tested. I'd like to know, but then again.... Perhaps some of the brighter stars of this group can shed more light as well as opinions on this subject. B.A. > Perhaps some of the brighter stars of this group can shed more light as > well as opinions on this subject. Until they do, here's my 2 cents: When a Google check on Aureon "Prostate PX" turns up only a couple of dozen hits -- rather than 1,638,000 -- and every one is about money and investment ops rather than clinical trials -- I don't base any decisions, financial OR medical, on it. I.P. About the 'Prostate PX', I'd have to go along with I.P. Doesn't seem like they could do any more toward predicting PCa coming back than is already being done. And on Bob A's thoughts about maybe not WANTING to be tested...I agree there too. Though almost a year out from RP, I STILL awaken in a cold sweat thinking about the fact that I FELT fine...and that a simple blood test (PSA) started me on the road to prostate cancer treatment...and everything that it entails. Whoa! Best of health to all, Ron B. Chicago > Though almost a year out from RP, I STILL awaken in a cold sweat > thinking about the fact that I FELT fine...and that a simple blood test > (PSA) started me on the road to prostate cancer treatment...and > everything that it entails. Ron: Same here. I know what you're feeling. I guess it is both a blessing as well as a curse to find out through PSA. Mine would not have been found through a DRE alone. PSA definitely helped on getting treatment earlier and with potential for cure. PS: I agree with I.P. as well. B.A. > About the 'Prostate PX', I'd have to go along with I.P. > > Doesn't seem like they could do any more toward predicting PCa coming > back than is already being done. I don't know about THAT. I'm guesssing (I didn't bother to read their details) the Prostate Px system is a pattern recognition system trained to incorporate all the known data into a decision model that could indeed predict better than any single source such as Partin's tables or Billy Bob's nomogram. Of course, like any other computer model and program, it's no better than the data and algorithms it was based on. > And on Bob A's thoughts about maybe not WANTING to be tested...I agree The minute "they" offer practical, convenient, reliable testing for more diseases I'm subject to, I'd have few reservations about getting tested. I think it would be great to have early warning about a disease if it would help me detect and treat it sooner. For example, moderate ED at our age is usually a sign of vascular disease. As soon as my uro said my ED onset was probably not related to my PC, I had several atherosclerosis blood markers checked. If they had been out of their norms (they were fine), I'd have consulted a cardiologist for a heads-up on THAT prospect. I was about to suggest that incurable worriers need not apply, but they'll always fine SOMETHING to worry about, so why not at least prolong their "pleasure" by averting health threats via testing? > Though almost a year out from RP, I STILL awaken in a cold sweat > thinking about the fact that I FELT fine...and that a simple blood test > (PSA) started me on the road to prostate cancer treatment...and > everything that it entails. And it will be years before most of us know whether tx was worth the effort. Most of us have to go another decade or more without some OTHER fatal event to be fairly sure our effort paid off. I'm quite lucky in that I KNOW my PC workup saved, or at least significantly extended, my life from carcinoid colon cancer. Nyaa, Nyaa, Nyaaa! ;-) If my PC tx also saved me from PC, I'm a whole 'nuther decade ahead of the game. Thank God for my PC! I.P. I.P. noted: "If my PC tx also saved me from PC, I'm a whole 'nuther decade ahead of the game. Thank God for my PC!" I understand that line of thinking and agree. My comments about waking up in a cold sweat...and realizing that my PC was discovered by a simple blood test was more a philosophical thought than a medical one. Indeed, I'm glad to have had an early warning...but just the IDEA that you can feel fine, be going about your business without concern...and THEN...have a blood test change your life (even though it's a GOOD thing)...is still freaky. Overwhelming sometimes. Best of health to everyone, Ron B. Chicago "Ron B" <wrotte > but just the IDEA that > you can feel fine, be going about your business without concern...and > THEN...have a blood test change your life (even though it's a GOOD > thing)...is still freaky. Freaky, too, how many comparable threats follow the same mold. Think about it ... heart disease, vascular disease, diabetes, hypertension, many cancers ... MANY life-threatening, treatable diseases are fairly reliably detectable with simple tests long before any symptoms arise. Even freakier how many people INDUCE dread diseases through avoidable, known behavior. I.P. I.P. noted: "Even freakier how many people INDUCE dread diseases through avoidable, known behavior." True and true, I.P. All the best, Ron B. Chicago >>And on Bob A's thoughts about maybe not WANTING to be tested...I agree > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > SOMETHING to worry about, so why not at least prolong their "pleasure" by > averting health threats via testing? Don't get me wrong, I said that I was ambivalent about being tested not that I would not do it if the test was a reliable, proven test. I do not think the Prostate Px test is proven enough for me yet for the reasons I.P. states. I for one would want advance warning, like crossing gates, red lights, and bells going off instead of getting blindsided by a train! Most of us will want early warning on potentially fatal or dangerous medical conditions. Most of us get routine blood work done annually anyway at their GP's offices. The PSA test just happened to be one of them. I personally know some people that will not go to their doctors at all for any blood work or physicals! They prefer to have their heads in the sand. Some male acquaintances, and they are a small minority, do not want to know their PSA results and do not get tested! If something better comes along, and it will, I will use the medical advancement towards a positive healthful advantage. B.A.
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