Peacekeeper,
It sounds like the docs have done all the tests necessary and made a
diagnosis. But, you said no treatment? Not even antibiotics?

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> My FIL has been saying he has a lump on the prostate, I assumed this was
> PCA . Can you have a lump and not be PCA? I ask as he has no health
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> Tony
> lurker here and in the BPA group...
Peacekeeper - 22 Feb 2006 20:27 GMT
> Peacekeeper,
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>> Tony
>> lurker here and in the BPA group...
Sorry meant no treatment for lump... They are mailing out a prescription...
> My FIL has been saying he has a lump on the prostate, I assumed this was PCA
> . Can you have a lump and not be PCA? I ask as he has no health insurance
> and has to use our state's "free" hospital" service.
A "lump" on the prostate probably means that the doctors found some
irregularity when they felt his prostate through the rectum. That is a
standard test called a digital rectal exam (DRE). Such an irregularity
can be caused by many things. It also possible that ultrasound showed
something that he refers to as a "lump".
> Today he went into the hospital's staff urologist and did a battery of tests
> including Ultrasoulnd and flow /retention measurements and they called him
> today saying he has an infection in the prostate which i assume is
> prostatitis.
If he has an infection, it would be usual to treat it with an
antibiotic. But in many cases, the prostatitis doesn't respond to
antibiotics. If it doesn't hurt or interfere with urine flow, it may
not be necessary to treat it.
> There was no mention of lump or PCA. Of course he is happy not to ask as he
> doesn't want to be told that he has PCA (who does) but we (his family) are
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> causes just as the bone cancer pain was starting. that is why we are
> worrying .
It sounds as if the doctors were pretty thorough and I assume they must
have done PSA tests. From what you say, it would be surprising if his
was not elevated. In a younger man with elevated PSA or an abnormal
DRE, the nest step would be a biopsy. But in older men, it might not
be warranted. There is a small risk of infection, and even if they
found prostate cancer, they probably wouldn't recommend treating it.
The reason is that prostate cancer grows very slowly, and an 80 year old
man will probably live out his life normally without being affected by it.
> Just wondering what is normally the cause of a lump. (been there at least 2
> years so far.)
There are many other things which can cause something like that. One
would be a cyst. These things don't go away usually. If I were you I
wouldn't be specially concerned about it.
Unfortunately, you don't know just what his doctors told him. They may
have discussed with him the possibility he might have prostate cancer
and the fact that it probably wouldn't need to be treated. They
certainly should have told him to come back regularly for evaluation
because if he does have prostate cancer and it is more aggressive than
normal, it could cause obstructive and other symptoms. Even if he
doesn't have prostate cancer, with his symptoms he could develop a
urinary obstruction, and that could be life threatening. Even if he did
have prostate cancer, they would probably treat it with hormone
suppressing drugs to control it rather than using surgery or aggressive
treatment with radiation. I would be very surprised if they didn't go
into all of this, but only your father-in-law can tell you. If you
think either that he is not getting competent medical advice or that he
is ignoring it, you should try to take it up with someone, but I'm not
sure whom. The important thing is that goes back regularly for
checkups since whatever is wrong with him could cause serious problems
which can be avoided with treatment. A neighbor of mine ignored his
prostae problems, and as a result both his kidneys failed. He doesn't
have prostate cancer, but he needs dialysis several times a week.
Perhaps you can tell him that you have found that in a sense prostate
cancer in a man his age is almost normal and not very frightening. But
keeping track of just what is going on with his prostate is important to
avoid serious problems.
> Tony
> lurker here and in the BPA group...
Peacekeeper - 22 Feb 2006 20:32 GMT
>> My FIL has been saying he has a lump on the prostate, I assumed this was
>> PCA . Can you have a lump and not be PCA? I ask as he has no health
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>> Tony
>> lurker here and in the BPA group...
Thanks Leonand for the time u took to answer, always thought a lump was PCA.
Docs know best and knowing my FIL he would keep anything bad quiet from us,
that is his way of dealing with issues he does not like.
Will try to ensure he keeps the checkups up.
Thanks again