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New Depend Pads - What Gives?

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judamd@aol.com - 16 Feb 2006 23:16 GMT
The last three packages of Depends Pads (for men of course) are
different than the previous dozens.  A few months back the package
changed color from mostly blue to mostly green.  Now in the last couple
of weeks I bought three new packages on sale to stock up from two
different stores (Target and Longs Drugs) and now the pads themselves
are different.  The blue "extra absorbancy" center part is narrower by
about a half inch or so and based on my experience today - first
accident in almost two years - they don't absorb as well either.  The
price of course has gone up a dollar too.  Anyone else seen this change
or am I in a trial of some kind?  
Dave Perry
Steve Jordan - 17 Feb 2006 00:07 GMT
On February 15, Dave Perry wrote, in pertinent part, about the change in
Depends Pads:

(ka-snip)
> The blue "extra absorbancy" center part is narrower by
> about a half inch or so and based on my experience today - first
> accident in almost two years - they don't absorb as well either.  The
> price of course has gone up a dollar too.  Anyone else seen this change
> or am I in a trial of some kind?  
>  
I believe that what Dave is in the process of is being shafted by a
greedy and deceptive manufacturer.

I have seen similar cases many times, involving many consumer products.
The manufacturer will

1. Reduce the amount of product in the package but charge the same
price, and/or
2. Change the type of packaging and at the same time reduce the amount
of product, charging the same or a higher price, and/or
3. Degrade the quality of the product but charge the same or more.

Others may think of further examples.

I have no problem with the concept of greed, being myself pretty greedy.
It's the deception to which I object. I don't care to be lied to, even
by implication.

I dunno whether it's changed (though if so, it's probably been
downgraded) but once upon a time I learned that
advertisers/manufacturers consider the Great Unwashed (you and me) to
have the intellectual capacity of a sixth grader. 'Course, that was back
when a sixth grader could parse a sentence in his native language.

And they continue to succeed with their deceptions.

I'm afraid I sound like a leftist corporation-hating whacko. Not so. But
I won't hesitate to criticize dishonesty even among multi-jillion-dollar
executives. A liar is a liar is a liar, no matter his salary and stock
options. Remember Enron.

That's it for my OT postings -- for a while.

Regards,

Steve J

"I believe it is better to tell the truth than to lie. I believe that it is
better to be free than to be a slave. And I believe that it is better to
know than to be ignorant."
-- H. L. Mencken
I.P. Freely - 17 Feb 2006 00:38 GMT
"Steve Jordan" wrote>
> Others may think of further examples.

Offering large economy boxes with an implied reduced unit cost, but in fact
charging a higher unit price.

Significantly cutting back most customer service personnel, functions, and
policies.

Cleverly and deliberately designing products that baaaarrrely outlast their
warranties.

Or shrinking warranties to match product failure statistics.

injecting more water into Quarter-Pounders every time the minimum wage in
increased (can ya blame them?)

Making claimants sue to get insurance compensation, a la Allstate.

Rebates: the whole list of gotchas in THAT process.

Products that don't work from the get-go, from widgets to software.

And the beat goes on.

I.P.
DP - 17 Feb 2006 20:06 GMT
"> 1. Reduce the amount of product in the package but charge the same
> price, and/or
> 2. Change the type of packaging and at the same time reduce the amount of
> product, charging the same or a higher price, and/or
> 3. Degrade the quality of the product but charge the same or more.

It's called the Wal-Mart effective, or referred to as WalMarting a product.
It is amazing to me how many things are smaller, lighter, crappier than they
used to be.

Dale P.
I.P. Freely - 18 Feb 2006 02:24 GMT
> "> 1. Reduce the amount of product in the package but charge the same
>> price, and/or
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> product. It is amazing to me how many things are smaller, lighter,
> crappier than they used to be.

I hope the public is starting to catch on that the anti-Walmart campaign is
led primarily by the damned unions, who are upset that Walmart tell 'em
where to go and just marches on with that great institution known as good
old capitalism. Hard businessmen? You bet! Isn't that what got Microsoft
where it is today? Look what THAT company and industry have done for the
world. Panacea? Of course not.

Why does this matter to a PC forum? Depends ... not to mention just about
everything else we buy with our hard-earned money. I suspect I've saved
thousands there over the years, and that's always a good thing ... unless it
drove Depends to make our pads too narrow.

I.P.
DP - 18 Feb 2006 19:59 GMT
> I hope the public is starting to catch on that the anti-Walmart campaign
> is led primarily by the damned unions, who are upset that Walmart tell 'em
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> I.P.

I am not a Wal-Mart basher.  I just don't see that the prices are really any
lower than Safeway, Kroger, K-Mart, Target, etc..  They are operating
legally and are the most successfull retailer in the world.  They are
ruthless with suppliers and demanding of employees, but so be it.  Yet they
have caused many a product to be cheapened.  These price roll backs don't
happen because the manufacturer is wanting to make less money.  The only
REAL problem I have is that Wal-Mart comes into an area and wants major tax
advantages to build there.  The city cannot say no, as the sales tax revenue
generated by a Wal-Mart is amazing.  Yet my old K-mart down the road gets no
consideration and closes after the new Wal-Mart opens up.  I personally do
not shop at Wal-Mart, but my reason is that I do not like the product
selection or service at wal-mart.

Dale P.
I.P. Freely - 17 Feb 2006 00:37 GMT
> The blue "extra absorbancy" center part is narrower by
> about a half inch or so and based on my experience today - first
> accident in almost two years

I've word a pad twice now, since my leak rate is down to 2 squirts and a
dribble. Both times led to visible leaks, simply because my 2"-3" whopper is
incompatible with the pads' 3" width. Do the math: 0.5X3" < 2". We need to
stand up and demand wings, guys, or maybe a round pad. Or have our docs
prescribe the Acti-Cuf so our insurance will pay for it; it really is a
superior product IMO.

I.P.
askone@webtv.net - 17 Feb 2006 03:18 GMT
  Go to Sams Club. You get three packs
of 30 extra absorbent pads and they're
equal to Depends.Cost about 20 bucks
   
doubleowseven@theplacecalledyahoo.com - 18 Feb 2006 21:11 GMT
>The last three packages of Depends Pads (for men of course) are
>different than the previous dozens.  A few months back the package
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>or am I in a trial of some kind?  
>Dave Perry

I have never had any but the ones in the mostly green package so don't
know how they compare.  Curious about how much you are paying for a
package.   I've been ordering mine from Amazon and the price is
cheaper then the ones I bought  locally by a little bit plus there is
no sales tax plus shipping is free for over $25 in stuff.  I think the
last order of 2 52 pad packages cost just over $25.
judamd@aol.com - 19 Feb 2006 18:53 GMT
Normal retail around here (CA) is about $16.  I always buy on sale when
they're about $11.  There was a time a couple of years ago when Big
Lots had 'em for $7 but no more.  I will look into the Amazon deal.
Thanks.
Dave
 
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