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Flax Seed and Prostate Cancer

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David Detchemendy - 19 Jul 2003 21:45 GMT
       My doctor recommended me for a randomized trial that involves ground
flax seed.  Has anyone else been involved in a study, and do you have any
comment about doing so positive or negative?
   I felt like I was doing something helpful, so everyday I take 30 grams
of ground flax seed.  Supposedly this stuff has the highest natural source
of something called "Omega 3 fatty acids".  From what I have read, this may
slow the progression of prostate cancer, and metastasis, but it is not a
cure by any means.  It is a little bit of a problem to get down because it
does not mix well, especially in milk.  It lumps up.  I ended up using plain
tap water and just drinking it down.  The flavor is not bad.  The closest I
can come to for a comparison would be Grape Nuts.
   Just curious if I was the only guinea pig out here?
   Thank you.
David.
jk - 21 Jul 2003 16:56 GMT
>         My doctor recommended me for a randomized trial that involves ground
> flax seed.  Has anyone else been involved in a study, and do you have any
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>     Thank you.
> David.

  Also great stuff for your diet in general... us Atkins users have been
using it for years.

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Jim - 17 Apr 2005 13:23 GMT
David
I have been taking Omega 3 for a number of years.  For a couple of
years I was taking ground flax seed mixed with orange juice.  I've
been taking omega 3 to help with my clogged arteries.

I don't want to rain on your parade, but I was recently diagnosed with
prostate cancer that has spread to my bones.

Jim

>        My doctor recommended me for a randomized trial that involves ground
>flax seed.  Has anyone else been involved in a study, and do you have any
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>    Thank you.
>David.
Reuben Rothstein - 17 Apr 2005 14:56 GMT
Jim
Sorry to hear the bad news.
Fight it fiercefully and best of luck in winning that battle.

Reuben

>David
>I have been taking Omega 3 for a number of years.  For a couple of
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>>    Thank you.
>>David.
I. P. Freely - 17 Apr 2005 23:16 GMT
Gotta ask: has flaxseed kept you on the toity doing paperwork for 10 minutes
at a time many times a day because it produces pretty much a continuous
gooey extrusion? (No WONDER so few hecklers bother this forum.) My TP
consumption increased at least 500% on even just a few grams of flaxseed.

OTOH, I also realized within the following year that I had become lactose
intolerant. I now wonder whether THAT explains the flaxseed problem.

I.P.

> Jim
> Sorry to hear the bad news.
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>>>    Thank you.
>>>David.
Steve Kramer - 17 Apr 2005 20:12 GMT
That seems to be the experience of most people here.  Regardless of how well
or poorly we've eaten in our lives, we all get Prostate Cancer.

Do have the numbers?  PSA?  Gleason?  I assume the stage is T4.

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PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA  .1  .1  .1  .27  .37  .75
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA  .34 .22 .15 .21 .32
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05
PSA  .07 .05 .06 .05
non Illegitimi carborundum

> David
> I have been taking Omega 3 for a number of years.  For a couple of
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> >    Thank you.
> >David.
Alan Meyer - 18 Apr 2005 19:27 GMT
> That seems to be the experience of most people here.  Regardless of how well
> or poorly we've eaten in our lives, we all get Prostate Cancer.
> ...

It's clearly true that dietary prescriptions haven't
prevented people from getting cancer.

Still, I'm glad they're doing trials like this.  It may be that
the treatment group has a small but statistically significant
improvement in getting cancer, in the delay until onset,
the delay until symptoms, or in the delay until death.

If any of those are true, it's something worth knowing about.

Most of the dietary studies done are "in vitro", i.e., in test tubes
and petri dishes.  Without clinical trials like these we don't
know for sure whether the in vitro studies are giving us
useful information or not.

So I'm glad that David is participating in this trial.

   Alan
Ed Friedman - 18 Apr 2005 20:04 GMT
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 20:45:44 GMT, "David Detchemendy"

<DDETCHEMENDY@nc.rr.com> wrote:

>       My doctor recommended me for a randomized trial that involves ground
>flax seed.  Has anyone else been involved in a study, and do you have any
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>   Thank you.
>David.

David,

What is interesting is that flax seed (and soy) will definitely prevent
prostate cancer.  However, if you already have prostate cancer cells,
then it will cause the cancer to undergo apoptosis at a lower rate,
resulting in an increased overall rate of prostate cancer growth.
Ordinarily, this increase is very minor, but for individuals taking 5AR2
inhibitors or individuals with AIPC lacking function iAR, then the
increase is significant.

Ed Friedman
 
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