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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate Cancer / February 2006OT? Neg bone scan and an question.
YEAH! The bone scan is negative for mets. Could be worse! There is something. Has anyone ever heard of this? From the bone scan: "There is a question of urine contamination over the scrotum." Thanks, laurel > YEAH! The bone scan is negative for mets. Could be worse! > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Thanks, > laurel If the technician had half a brain s/he would have had you pull down your pants and underwear and covered you with a sheet. If you urinated after they injected the radioactive juice and got a drop or two on your underwear, it would show up on the scan. Had my bone scan yesterday. Technician noted the 'dark' area on the tip of my pelvis. Had me go clean myself thoroughly to ensure there was not any urine cnotamination. Repeated the scan in a clean gown and also used additional viewing angles. Unfortunately for me, same result. But we'll see what the Doc's have to say. > Had my bone scan yesterday. Technician noted the 'dark' area on the > tip of my pelvis. Had me go clean myself thoroughly to ensure there > was not any urine cnotamination. Repeated the scan in a clean gown and > also used additional viewing angles. Unfortunately for me, same > result. But we'll see what the Doc's have to say. Damn, Trippr ... that's not good. Let's hope it's just a broken pelvis, or at least locally treatable. I was shown a guy's bone scan which had black spots by the dozens all OVER his skeleton; THAT was frightening even on an anonymous chart. I.P. I'm not a doctor, but there are often other causes of dark spots and your numbers would seem to make a bone met unlikely.  SignaturePSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46 Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins PSA .1 .1 .1 .27 .37 .75 EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47 PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05, 5/05, 10/05 PSA .07 .05 .06 .05 .08 Non Illegitimi Carborundum > Had my bone scan yesterday. Technician noted the 'dark' area on the > tip of my pelvis. Had me go clean myself thoroughly to ensure there > was not any urine cnotamination. Repeated the scan in a clean gown and > also used additional viewing angles. Unfortunately for me, same > result. But we'll see what the Doc's have to say. Steve, I agree. The technician asked if I had bruised my tailbone by falling, broken any bones, arthritus, etc. So there are definitely other reasons for the 'dark' spots. I have my first consultation with my radiologist tomorrow and back to my uroligist on Tuesday. We'll see. Along with my bone scan yesterday I had a CT scan and x-rays. Just curious. I had an injection first thing for the bone scan, then drank lots of chemically induced flavoed orange juice stuff for the CT scan and had another injection just prior to the CT (the hot dye stuff that's warms you up), had my x-rays and went to lunch. Returned later for the bone scan. Seems like a lot of different stuff in my body. Are there interactions between these various 'nuclear' stuff that might confuse the results as well? Laurel, I hope I didn't come across as being negative. I was just trying to give you a different experience. As Steve said, there are lots a reasons for the dark spots. Thanks all. > The technician asked if I had bruised my tailbone by > falling, broken any bones, arthritus, etc. So there are definitely > other reasons for the 'dark' spots. Absolutely. Any bone injury or pathology (e.g., the arthritis) within the past few years can cause dark spots. My lab tech seemed alarmed until I laughed and pointed at my black broken ribs and shoulder separation, both many months old. I assumed by your silence that you couldn't explain the pelvis spot. I.P. > Steve, I agree. The technician asked if I had bruised my tailbone by > falling, broken any bones, arthritus, etc. So there are definitely > other reasons for the 'dark' spots. I have my first consultation with > my radiologist tomorrow and back to my uroligist on Tuesday. We'll > see. Yes, he has some areas that are "consistent with degenerative process" but not with mets. I think whoever said the drop of pee was right. Just odd that they'd even mention it like they did. Steve expected to put on a gown, but they did it in his overalls. > Laurel, I hope I didn't come across as being negative. I was just > trying to give you a different experience. As Steve said, there are > lots a reasons for the dark spots. Thanks all. You definitely did not come across as negative. I only felt sorrow that you had that result, and I hope it is nothing. Funny how arthritis sounds good in a situation like this. The CDs are cool. From what I can tell (curious or nosy, take your pick. I prefer 'curious') Steve's picture doesn't look like the ones I've seen online with mets. We see the onc and the rad on Wednesday, so its good there's no big wait for professional input. Also, its GREAT to have a doctor. Although Steve said tonight that the uro we originally saw was the best doctor we could have had. It forced us to take charge. And to learn. Otherwise he would have just done whatever they said and perhaps spent the rest of his life wondering. Now he feels confident that he will make his own decision, for himself, and handle whatever turns out from HIS decision. Although I have to say as bad as it gets some days, that 2 weeks or whatever that we had no doc at all bothered me the most. Not the sort of thing you want to do without professional help. I know Steve hasn't written on here, and its kind of odd that the wife is doing it, but we have different skills and it just so happens that I have 90% of the computer comfort. Thank you all. I am so grateful, it feels too big for words so I don't say it at all. But I feel it with every word you write. All of you. > I know Steve hasn't written on here, and its kind of odd that the wife > is doing it, but we have different skills and it just so happens that I > have 90% of the computer comfort. Thank you all. I am so grateful, it > feels too big for words so I don't say it at all. But I feel it with > every word you write. All of you. Don't let that bother you. And, you are not alone. Many women post here and almost none of their husbands to. As a matter of fact, I can only thing of one husband and wife who both post. SignaturePSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46 Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins PSA .1 .1 .1 .27 .37 .75 EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47 PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05, 5/05, 10/05 PSA .07 .05 .06 .05 .08 Non Illegitimi Carborundum Just returned from my Oncology Radiaoligist's consultation. He was not concerned at all by the minor 'dark' spots on my bone density tets. He did confer with his pertner and they both agreed that the location was unusual for a met and that it was so small they doubted they could even do a biopsy. He recommended surgery vs. RT (his specialy). Funny, how we relieved you get when you know you have 'only' prostate cancer. My Uroligist's wife just had a baby so had to push my next appointment to the 20th. Not out of the woods by any means, but real positive we'll conquer this in the very near term. Thanks for all your guidance and advice. Laurel, wishing you and your hubby get at least this much good news....... > Just returned from my Oncology Radiaoligist's consultation. He was not > concerned at all by the minor 'dark' spots on my bone density tets. He > did confer with his pertner and they both agreed that the location was > unusual for a met and that it was so small they doubted they could even > do a biopsy. He recommended surgery vs. RT (his specialy). Funny, > how we relieved you get when you know you have 'only' prostate cancer. There's a big difference between prostate cancer and advanced prostate cancer. The latter is terminal. I never had much of a doubt, of course, but it is still great news. And, with your rad's recommendation, sounds like you're closer to a decision on treatment. That, too, is good news. I would spend the next ten days reading and writing questions. I suspect by the 21st, you'll have made your decision. SignaturePSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46 Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins PSA .1 .1 .1 .27 .37 .75 EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47 PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05, 5/05, 10/05 PSA .07 .05 .06 .05 .08 Non Illegitimi Carborundum Hello Steve, Life is terminal. I just went to a service for a friend of mine, and a lady.....She passed away suddenly and was 52. We had a nice service and wished her ashes into the Pacific Ocean. I saw her last week and she gave me a big hug, and we met with her and her husband at a Walmart. The store is 75 miles away from home, since we drive to the "Big City to Shop". Of course the lady never shops at Walmart, and me either.....What a coincidence. she said, get a cart Johnny, you need that here.....So, after a few more runs around the isles, and my arms were full of inexpensive clothing, I got a cart.......Then I ran into Kathy again....She laughed, and said, see, you need a cart...... Anyway it was a funny meeting and visit, only to go to her service the folowing week.... You are a fighter, and appreciate your inputs... I am a survivor and a fighter. I do not like to go to Dr.s. I know so many people that refuse to go and get sliced, diced, radiated,and prescribed.... I wish it were easy for me to go.... I go to the dentist, and then from there, I stop. I run, work hard, try to eat nutritious foods. I take vitamins, and such. I called my Dr. the other day in a far away city to get Viagra........He said don't you have a Dr. Local. " I said, no, "and he could give me that prescription if I drove 400 miles, and saw him... I was purturbed...So, now I have to find a Dr. that can prescribe viagra......here in a small town... I give, I am 56, getting ready to go to New Zealand for a month starting March 1st. I have decided to not use viagra, and let it be al la natural. I am getting tired of the expense also.....100 mgs for 115.00. I cannot believe that. I have vented, Thanks for your ear. John Loomis >> Just returned from my Oncology Radiaoligist's consultation. He was not >> concerned at all by the minor 'dark' spots on my bone density tets. He [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I would spend the next ten days reading and writing questions. I suspect > by the 21st, you'll have made your decision. ... > I was purturbed...So, now I have to find a Dr. that can prescribe viagra......here in a > small town... ... Hi John, if your former doctor is in another state, he probably doesn't have a license to prescribe in your state and a pharmacy might not honor his prescription - or might report him to the authorities. The Doc is probably just trying to follow the rules. ... > I have decided to not use viagra, and let it be al la natural. I am getting tired of > the expense also.....100 mgs for 115.00. > I cannot believe that. ... I figure that breaks down as: $75 profit $25 advertising and marketing costs. $5 recouping the cost of research and development. $5 in further R&D $3.02 for distribution. $1.98 for manufacturing Well, I confess that I made up those numbers. But I bet the manufacturing part of the cost isn't much different from what I said. Have a great time in New Zealand. It's a place I've always wanted to visit. Alan Oh, what a blessing, tripper. Glad to hear it. > Just returned from my Oncology Radiaoligist's consultation. He was not > concerned at all by the minor 'dark' spots on my bone density tets. He [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > and advice. Laurel, wishing you and your hubby get at least this much > good news....... > If the technician had half a brain s/he would have had you pull down > your pants and underwear and covered you with a sheet. If you urinated > after they injected the radioactive juice and got a drop or two on your > underwear, it would show up on the scan. What a relief. I had images of a torn bladder, or something. |
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