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Was Atkins right about Low Fat all along?
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JK@work - 08 Feb 2006 16:55 GMT http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/07/AR2006020701681. html?nav=rss_nation
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Stavros - 08 Feb 2006 17:26 GMT I am sure that we are all surprised by this. But there are some uncertainties here, scientifically, most obviously that the study did not include men so far as it may without doubt apply to PCa. Regarding heart disease, I cannot help but be skeptible. What kind of fat did these women eat or not eat? Or if they developed high cholesterol during the study, did they go on meds to lower it? How "low in fat" was "low"? How "normal" was normal for whom? Was it moderate or high?
But I want to believe it and there's the rub I may be tempted to start again to eat the way I really want to and that could accelerate the progression of my PCa. But I really hate the "moderate" fat diet I follow (as I would call it). Haven't had spareribs in months! Or--well, you get the idea.
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/07/AR2006020701681. html?nav=rss_nation > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/health/2002791479_lowfat08m.html?syndicati on=rss JK@work - 08 Feb 2006 20:09 GMT > I am sure that we are all surprised by this. But there are some > uncertainties here, scientifically, most obviously that the study did not [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > (as I would call it). Haven't had spareribs in months! Or--well, you get > the idea. Stavros you and I had this same chat months ago. I along with millions that have been following a low carb, high fat diet for years have been finally vindicated in one of our major beliefs. Dietary fat does not affect lipid levels or health. We think that it's the sugar and starch that are the real culprits in our diet in our estimation. Too bad old Doc Atkins didn't make it to see what he said 40 years ago in his book, be finally proved correct in a major government funded study. All these cardiologists, trainers, FDA bigwigs, nutritionists, even Ornish, etc.... were wrong. Funny but they just endorsed low fat for the new pyramid too. Eating low fat is not the healthy way to eat. Eating a low fat diet for 8 years has shown zero effect on heart desease or even colon cancer. So why are you eating bird food, when I've been eating prime rib, lobster with drawn butter, and whipped cream for dessert for years now? My heart health, blood, and energy have never been better. Wonder how long it will take for public awareness & acceptance to hit the store shelves. Low Fat is everywhere. Restaurants, stores, TV. The general public is totally brainwashed. Go out and have yourself a big steak tonight.... but no potato or bread for you!
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Leonard Evens - 08 Feb 2006 22:11 GMT > I am sure that we are all surprised by this. But there are some > uncertainties here, scientifically, most obviously that the study did not [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > they go on meds to lower it? How "low in fat" was "low"? How "normal" was > normal for whom? Was it moderate or high? First, the differences in fat intake between the two groups was not that dramatic. Second, nothing about the nature of the fats was studied. They just ate what they wanted. It was only total intake that they attempted. The researchers wanted to get it down to 20 percent, but the women weren't able to do that well.
The article in the times didn't say that the "low" fat diet women did have a slightly lower LDL level, but it wasn't different enough to be considered signficant for cardiovascular benefit.
> But I want to believe it and there's the rub I may be tempted to start > again to eat the way I really want to and that could accelerate the > progression of my PCa. But I really hate the "moderate" fat diet I follow > (as I would call it). Haven't had spareribs in months! Or--well, you get > the idea. I found that after a few years on a low fat diet, I got sick when eating anything with a substantial amount of fat in it. I enjoy what I do eat quite a lot, but I avoid fat. The only problem I have is eating in restaurants, which all generally specialize in selling fat.
But the upshot of this, is that there is no proof that a low fat diet will protect you anyway. There is some indirect evidence that it will, but there is also evidence like this which casts doubt on that idea. But for someone like you, it is really an unanswered question.
>>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/07/AR2006020701681. html?nav=rss_nation >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> >>http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/health/2002791479_lowfat08m.html?syndicati on=rss I.P. Freely - 08 Feb 2006 23:10 GMT > The only problem I have is eating in restaurants, which all generally > specialize in selling fat. I agree, and get around that in several ways beyond the obvious fish or chicken entre. It's usually manageable, at least at my restaurant dining level of about once per week.
I.P.
Leonard Evens - 08 Feb 2006 21:59 GMT > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/07/AR2006020701681. html?nav=rss_nation > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/health/2002791479_lowfat08m.html?syndicati on=rss As I noted in a letter I sent to the NY times (but probably won't get published), this study shows that if you are a woman, 50-79, your current diet contains about 35 percent fat, you only expect to live 8 additional years, and you are contemplating reducing your fat intake to about 25 percent, then you probably shouldn't bother. If that doesn't describe you, the study doesn't necessarily tell you anything.
The article mentions, for example, that women on the lower fat diet did have a 9 percent lower breast cancer rate (in eight years), but it wasn't statistically significant. They will continue to follow those women to see if it becomes significant after more time passes. Wouldn't it be ironic if lots of women start eating as much fat as they want and 10 years from now, the same researchers report that using a follow-up period of 20 years, breast cancer incidence was reduced by a third? People will cite this as yet another example of how scientists keep changing what they say. But in fact if you look carefully at what they do say and don't generalize beyond the study population, you are much less likely to be misled.
In my case, I am a 72 year old man who started off in my middle 30s with a cholesterol level of about 210, and it had been going up about 15 units each year. I've been on first a low saturated fat diet and for at least 20 years on a very low fat diet, probably 10 to 20 percent of my diet. My total cholesterol ranges from 130 to 150, depending on how strictly I limit fats. In addition, at my age, my mother and all three of her siblings had cardiovascular disease on what might be described as a normal American diet. Actually, her brother had died of colon cancer at about age 65, which my mother had survived in her 50s. I have no evidence yet of cardiovascular disease and no one has ever found a polyp in my colon. Of course, one case doesn't prove anything, and it is possible that my cholesterol level may have come down anyway for some other reason. But I doubt it. It is known, by the way, that a low LDL decreases risk of heart attack and strokes. It is hard to see how I managed that except through diet.
Note that if you studied smokers and non-smokers for 8 years, you might very well conclude that there was no significant difference in lung cancer or cardiovascular disease.
I may die of a heart attack tomorrow, while someone who thrives on pizza and steak may live to 100, but I'm convinced I've added a few years to my life. Until someone does a study comparing much larger differences in fat intake, I will stick with my present regimen. My relatives have all tended to die by 80, and I hope to get a bit beyond that.
I.P. Freely - 08 Feb 2006 22:24 GMT No, guys ... this test indicates only one thing: 9 years of cutting back on some unspecified types of fat did not reduce the cancer incidence of a bunch of old ladies, most of whom began and ended the test obese. Read the WHOLE articles and it becomes painfully obvious how little else it means regarding Atkins or bacon or long-term or cardiovascular health or survival or types of fat or weight control or diabetes or athletic performance or even one single physician or hospital or university saying "Wal, golly gee ... this just changes everything (or anything)".
One can't just read the headlines and let it go at that. This one doesn't change a damn thing other than to imply that maybe short-term reduction of unspecified fats won't prevent (or cure existing) cancer in obese women in their prime cancer years.
I.P.
JK@work - 09 Feb 2006 19:29 GMT > No, guys ... this test indicates only one thing: 9 years of cutting back on > some unspecified types of fat did not reduce the cancer incidence of a bunch [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > I.P. from the NY Times article.
" Low-Fat Diets Flub a Test Published: February 9, 2006 The more we learn about nutrition, the less we seem to know. That is the clearest lesson to emerge from a large study of low-fat diets that has left diet aficionados thoroughly confused.
For decades or more, medical lore has suggested that a low-fat diet can yield substantial health benefits. Millions of Americans have tried to reduce the fat in their diets, and the food industry has obligingly served up low-fat products. Yet now comes strong evidence that the war against all fats was mostly in vain. It's enough to make us drown our confusion in a big serving of extra-rich ice cream.
The baffling results came from a $415 million study of almost 49,000 women age 50 to 79 who were tracked for eight years, with repeated exhortations to the low-fat dieters to stick to the regimen. In findings announced this week, the almost 20,000 women on low-fat diets had essentially the same incidence of breast cancer, colorectal cancer, heart disease and stroke as the 29,000 women who followed their normal eating patterns. The results clearly surprised the investigators and may sound the death knell for the belief that reducing the percentage of total fat in the diet is important for health."
Nothing anyone can or will say, will change the way you low fatters choose to eat. I tried low fat for years and gained weight and felt lousy. Personally I think that a group of 49,000 folks over 8 years is a pretty good indicator of something here. IP, you can dissect this one all you want. You're a facts guy, and you'll file this one away with the rest. I'm not trying to change your mind. All I wanted to point out, as I have been all along, is that I am just as healthy as the rest of you low fat eaters, while eating low carb and high fat for the last 8 years. Baked fish filet, dry baked potato and steamed veggies doesn't thrill me if I can have prime rib, steak, lobster, BBQ pork, butter, whipped cream, veggies and salad if I'm going to be just as healthy either way..... why wouldn't I choose the better tasting plan? That's what I get out of this study.
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I.P. Freely - 09 Feb 2006 22:45 GMT "JK@work" <wrote
> Baked fish filet, dry > baked potato and steamed veggies doesn't thrill me if I can have prime [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > better > tasting plan? That's what I get out of this study. This study didn't address that conclusion at all, but you're welcome to draw any conclusions you wish.
I.P.
Glassman - 10 Feb 2006 04:30 GMT > "JK@work" <wrote > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > I.P. "Adopting a low-fat diet in later life and following such a regimen for nearly a decade does not appear to have a significant impact on reducing the overall risk of breast cancer, colorectal cancer or heart disease"
"With regard to colorectal cancer, the study did not reveal a reduction of cancer incidence overall"
"No significant reduction in heart disease emerged among the women in the low-fat intervention group"
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Tom Cular - 10 Feb 2006 10:53 GMT >> "JK@work" <wrote >> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > "No significant reduction in heart disease emerged among the women in the > low-fat intervention group" JK,
As a beef and shellfish lover who more often than not had eggs and some kind of pork for breakfast without any significant weight gain throughout my adult life, I never gave diet any serious thought. The end result, I'm scheduled for a bypass next Thurdsay.
Tom
I.P. Freely - 10 Feb 2006 18:32 GMT > As a beef and shellfish lover who more often than not had eggs and some > kind of pork for breakfast without any significant weight gain throughout > my adult life, I never gave diet any serious thought. > The end result, I'm scheduled for a bypass next Thurdsay. For my first 40-something years I lived on fats and sweets. I am certain my daily sat fat intake ran in the ounces, probably many of them. Example: I had no problem eating an 18" pizza for lunch between a big fat-laden breakfast and supper. I asked every doctor I saw, "Is my diet hurting me even though I'm not fat?" None of them had any answer. But when the dangers of sat fats hit my radar screen in the '80s I wised up and changed my diet dramatically.
Now I have two cancers, but did my diet CAUSE them? Who knows? Many new trials implicate diet less regarding cancer, but not so for cardiovascular disease. I've gotten the impression that we need a genetic key to ENABLE our habits to lead to heart disease or cancer. i.e., that people without a very specific genetic key aren't going to get that specific disease no matter what they do (e.g., obese, sedentary, chain-smoking octogenarians). Other genetic keys may CAUSE disease even in diet and exercise freaks (e.g., Jim Fixx). Heck, we have living proof right here that even the Atkins diet doesn't kill EVERYBODY -- at least not early in life. OTOH, it just MAY make them snarky. ;-)
But the odds are that your presumption is correct. Just because we had a very well-fed tapeworm or a hollow leg doesn't mean we weren't killing ourselves.
I.P.
Tom Cular - 11 Feb 2006 02:37 GMT {snipped for brevity}
>> > But the odds are that your presumption is correct. Just because we had >> > a > very well-fed tapeworm or a hollow leg doesn't mean we weren't killing > ourselves. > > I.P. I could be wrong, and am frequently proven to be so. I find it difficult to believe that the fatty diet (that I thoroughly enjoyed for many years) had no influence on my current cardio issue. Did it influence the PCa outcome? Who knows, you can, and probably read a different opinion every day.
The bottom line, whether you like it or not is: Follow the advice I.P., read. research and try to separate the wheat from the chafe.
The irony is that I didn't want to be cut from the navel down, now they're going to go from the belly button up, looks as though some of us get a second shot at the zipper.
Tom
I.P. Freely - 11 Feb 2006 03:25 GMT > The irony is that I didn't want to be cut from the navel down, now they're > going to go from the belly button up, looks as though some of us get a > second shot at the zipper. If that ever happens to me, I'll be tempted to have a parlor tattoo a big honkin' YKK zipper down my chest. A skinny friend of mine was airlifted off a ski slope 11 years ago, dying of a heart attack. He had a triple or quad bypass, and jumped on the Pritikin/Ornish Diet right away. He eats ZERO fat of any kind. Every year rigorous tests prove he's increasingly healthier; his cardiovascuar disease is gone. He also windsurfs in extreme winds and overhead waves year-round, and is one of the first guys we call when someone needs to be rescued in those conditions, because the guy just doesn't fatigue in his first 3-4 hours on the water. He's 65.
You'll be fine as long as you take good care of yourself.
I.P.
Tom Cular - 11 Feb 2006 15:06 GMT >> The irony is that I didn't want to be cut from the navel down, now >> they're going to go from the belly button up, looks as though some of us [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > I.P. I like the YKK tattoo humor [it would fit in nicely with the windsurfer/surfer crowd] , recently I saw a picture of a balding head with a tattoo of a guy pushing a lawnmower around the edge. I look at the bypass as one more bump in the road and use house painting as an analogy, I don't look forward to the process, but the results are worth it.
BTW, for any who may care to see, here's a link to a video of a bypass from the guys who will work on my upper plumbing.
http://www.or-live.com/morristown/1243/
Tom
Leonard Evens - 11 Feb 2006 16:03 GMT >>The irony is that I didn't want to be cut from the navel down, now they're >>going to go from the belly button up, looks as though some of us get a [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > those conditions, because the guy just doesn't fatigue in his first 3-4 > hours on the water. He's 65. I'm 72. I eat a very low fat diet, and have done so for 20-30 years. I've never had any evidence of cardiovascular disease. I can't exercise as much as I would like because of arthritic problems, but I do the best I can. When I go to the dentist, I walk quickly up three flights of stairs while men much younger than I use the elevator, and I often beat them up without getting winded.
What does this prove? Probably not very much. There are so many things which can affect one's cardiovascular health that any individual case proves nothing. But, of course, you know that. Some weak evidence that my diet and lifestyle have been effective is that when I was 35 my cholesterol levels were over 200 and they are now in the range 130-150. Also, I have a family history of cardiovascular disease and colon cancer and so far at least have no evidence of either.
For those who think that they may be avoding all that delicious fat for no good reason, let me add that, at least in my case, I lost any taste for fat fairly soon, and now I get sick if I eat too much of it. I do like to eat and enjoy what I do eat.
> You'll be fine as long as you take good care of yourself. > > I.P. I.P. Freely - 11 Feb 2006 23:39 GMT > I can't exercise as much as I would like because of arthritic problems, > but I do the best I can. That rings home. I had my initial gym floor consultation "field evaluation" with a personal trainer yesterday. He said I would be his biggest challenge ever, due to the number and variety of exercises I had to avoid or modify due to OA and/or injuries in so many joints. He said he'd spend a lot of time in his books over the weekend trying to design an exercise regimen around them. At least I enjoyed the process (tens of thousands of hours of hard play) that led to my OA; I gather yours may be RA, which is a whole 'nuther ball game ... but which at least one medical guru -- Mirkin -- says can often be cured by long-term treatment with certain antibiotics.
I.P.
Leonard Evens - 12 Feb 2006 15:55 GMT >> I can't exercise as much as I would like because of arthritic problems, >>but I do the best I can. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > hard play) that led to my OA; I gather yours may be RA, which is a whole > 'nuther ball game ... No rheumatoid arthritis. It is mainly my spine where I have four herniated discs and spinal stenosis. I also have very tight muscles, possibly from a subclinical case of polio in my childhood. I do stretching, take Naproxen daily, and use ice a lot. I can't run, which I did in my 40s and 50s, but I can cycle as long as I don't do it more than every third day and more than two hours at a time. On other days I try to walk, mainly to control weight, but if I overdo that, my chronic achilles tendinitis acts up.
> but which at least one medical guru -- Mirkin -- says > can often be cured by long-term treatment with certain antibiotics. I have one of his books, which I found very useful in my running days.
> I.P. I.P. Freely - 12 Feb 2006 18:31 GMT > It is mainly my spine where I have four herniated discs and spinal > stenosis. I also have very tight muscles, possibly from a subclinical [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > hours at a time. On other days I try to walk, mainly to control weight, > but if I overdo that, my chronic achilles tendinitis acts up. And here I'm whining about shoulder booboos that bother only my playtime (or raking the lawn). I'll take one imperfect shoulder any day over spinal stenosis -- which my L1 compression fracture could trigger some year. But can't that tendinitis (who the heck put that "i" in there anyway?) be treated? Or did its pathology get out of hand and leave little useful tissue in there? Do you have a good physician and PT involved in its care? I've fought acute and chronic forearm tendons for decades, and so far have kept them at bay without surgery. Came CLOSE, but no scrapers yet. I did relent to one injection in one tendon, the results of which exceeded everyone's most optimistic expectations.
I.P.
Leonard Evens - 12 Feb 2006 22:19 GMT >>It is mainly my spine where I have four herniated discs and spinal >>stenosis. I also have very tight muscles, possibly from a subclinical [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > to one injection in one tendon, the results of which exceeded everyone's > most optimistic expectations. The conservative treatment recommended to me for my achilles tendinitis is a heel lift and stretching. That together with ice and naproxen mostly keep it under control. The problem is the bone where the tendon attaches is messed up. That could be dealt with by surgery, but I had similar surgery once for a bone spur and it took me several years to recover from the adhesions from that. That was mostly my fault for babying it during the recovery period, but I'm not anxious to do the same thing again. I had a cast for six weeks and had to use crutches.
> I.P. Glassman - 11 Feb 2006 08:18 GMT > For my first 40-something years I lived on fats and sweets. I am certain my > daily sat fat intake ran in the ounces, probably many of them. Example: I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > of sat fats hit my radar screen in the '80s I wised up and changed my diet > dramatically. It's the sweets and starches, not the fat (except sat & trans fat)..... so said Atkins. If you eat lots of both, that's way too much fuel for your liver and kidneys to process. Someday, somehow, somewhere, someone, will do a real controlled study that we can all use. Or perhaps, it's the "nature" that does us in, and diet has no effect on any of this? Seems like we all follow different paths to good health, but all meet at this PCa crossroads anyway.
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Claude - 11 Feb 2006 14:32 GMT >> For my first 40-something years I lived on fats and sweets. I am certain > my [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > follow different paths to good health, but all meet at this PCa crossroads > anyway. I don't follow particular diets so I havent paid much attention to the Atkins diet. But, if my memory serves me, didnt they show that people lost weight on the Atkins diet, but in the long run gained it back?
Glassman - 11 Feb 2006 22:10 GMT > >> For my first 40-something years I lived on fats and sweets. I am certain > > my [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Atkins diet. But, if my memory serves me, didnt they show that people lost > weight on the Atkins diet, but in the long run gained it back? Nope..... Americans all lose weight on any diet plan they follow, and then stay on maintenance. Unfortunately most don't stick to whatever is working, and gain it back. Even Weight Watchers has a 95% failure rate. Most that I speak to on a low carb plan tend to stick to it for life, rather than a short term diet. It's very easy to follow, and very fulfilling. I've spoken to a bunch that have been doing it for over 35 years and have maintained over 100 lb weight losses. I've been doing it for 8 years and lost 50.
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I.P. Freely - 11 Feb 2006 23:24 GMT "Claude" >
> didnt they show that people lost weight on the Atkins diet, but in the > long run gained it back? Yes. Atkins, for most people, is an effective and safe way to lose weight for that high school reunion a few weeks away, but beyond that the low-carb fad is all downside. The vast majority of people tire of it quickly and the weight comes right back on, as with most diets that stray far from the one and only diet proven to extend our useful life span: the Mediterranean diet., aka the food pyramid more or less, aka sound eating habits.
But enough about diet; an equally -- often more -- vital key is exercise. Many lean people die decades earlier than necessary because they live on their a.ses, and millions more seniors shuffle down the street, bent over their walkers, when all they need to be playing tennis again is ... exercise.
I.P.
I.P. Freely - 11 Feb 2006 23:03 GMT "Glassman" <wrote
> Seems like we all > follow different paths to good health, but all meet at this PCa crossroads > anyway. Or ALS or Alzheimer's, which we don't know how to "prevent". OTOH, we CAN do a great deal to "prevent" cardiovascular disease -- CVD -- and that's where diet and exercise are KNOWN to matter a great deal.
I.P.
I.P. Freely - 11 Feb 2006 23:27 GMT > Someday, somehow, somewhere, someone, will do > a real controlled study that we can all use. There have been hundreds of them, running as long as several decades, with scores of thousands of pts, and almost every one reaches the same general conclusion: excess sat fat kills, and often kills our health long before it stops our hearts. About PC ... who the hell knows?
I.P.
I.P. Freely - 11 Mar 2006 01:13 GMT "JK@work" <JKSinrod@verizon.net> wrote > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/07/AR2006020701681. html?nav=rss_nation
> http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/02/08/news/fat.php?rss > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/health/2002791479_lowfat08m.html?syndicati on=rss Dr. Mirkin responded: Dear Dr. Mirkin: Should we change our diets based on the news that low-fat diets don't reduce cancers or heart attacks?
You should not be surprised by the latest three studies showing that low-fat diets do not prevent breast and colon cancers and heart attacks (Journal of the American Medical Association, Feb 8, 2006). These studies were designed several years ago when a lot of people believed that all fats were bad. They did not test the newer diets such as the Mediterranean diet, which recommend eating good fats and avoiding the bad ones. You should restrict the bad saturated and partially hydrogenated fats, not the good omega-3 and monounsaturated fats. Even if you restrict the bad fats, your diet will be unhealthful unless you also restrict the bad refined carbohydrates and eat lots of the good carbohydrates found in fruits, vegetables, whole grains and beans. The main reason that these studies failed to show protection from cancer and heart attacks was that the women on the low-fat diets did not lose weight. That means that they did not eat fewer calories, even though they were instructed to avoid the most concentrated sources of calories. Heart attacks and cancers are associated with excess weight, and many scientists feel that inflammation explains the link. When germs get into your body, your immunity calls out cells and proteins to kill them. However, if your immunity remains active, it attacks and damages your own body to increase risk for heart attacks, strokes and cancers. We now know that full fat cells (as well as lymph nodes) produce the proteins of immunity to cause inflammation. The diet I recommend to all my patients is at http://www.drmirkin.com/heart/8614.html
I.P.
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