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1 year +  Post Operative PSA

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Sonny - 10 Jan 2006 20:12 GMT
In 2004 I had RP surgery with a Gleason 6 and a PSA of 3.4 (age 68 at the
time).  The surgery confirmed the orignal Gleason of 6, with the margins
clean, Extraprostatic Extension clean, Seminal Vesicle invasion clean,
Lymphovascular Invasion clean and a Stage of T2C.

Since then I have no problem with incontinence, but as of right now there is
no erectile ability.   At the age of 70 I can live with that if it is to be.
I did not have any erectile problems before surgery.

So far I have had 3 PSA blood test with the ultra sensitive system.  They
were:

2/2/05    <0.006

6/28/05  <0.006

1/3/06     0.01

I was a little concerned abut the rise in the PSA.  However, my doctor
assured me that there is nothing to worry about.  He stated that the ultra
sensitive blood test sometimes picks up a lot of "noise" that distorts the
readings.  However, it is an increase and I am scheduled for a July follow
up.  He also pointed to the fact that the standard is < 0.1, which I
obviously am far from.

Should I be overly concerned.

Thank you
Dave P - 10 Jan 2006 22:57 GMT
I wouldn't be concerned.  Your post surgery report is what we all wish and
hope for.

If it is bothering you - then go back and do it again this week.  Thats what
I would do.

The ultra sensitive tests are at times unreliable. I had two taken at the
same time at a hospital that was switching to the ultra sensitive method.
The old system had me at <0.1 the ultra sensitive had me at .3.  I took it
again and it was <0.01

So your dr is correct - the readings can be distorted at times from noise
etc.....

Wishing you <0.1 for the rest of your life.

Dave P

> In 2004 I had RP surgery with a Gleason 6 and a PSA of 3.4 (age 68 at the
> time).  The surgery confirmed the orignal Gleason of 6, with the margins
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>
> Thank you
Steve Kramer - 10 Jan 2006 23:39 GMT
> In 2004 I had RP surgery with a Gleason 6 and a PSA of 3.4 (age 68 at the
> time).  The surgery confirmed the orignal Gleason of 6, with the margins
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>
> Should I be overly concerned.

No!  You are to be congratulated.  The standard is <0.1 and you are
10/100ths of that mark.  You were 6/100ths of that mark.  I cannot tell you
how many time we have had people concered over possible 'spikes' of .8 or so
and here you are worrying about a spike of .004?  I think you are in great
shape!
I.P. Freely - 11 Jan 2006 01:45 GMT
> So far I have had 3 PSA blood test with the ultra sensitive system.  ...
> Should I be overly concerned.

I was 4+4 and 4+3 w/G=8.7 and seminal vesicle involvement (BOO!), but clear
margins (Yeah!). My post-op PSAs went .006, .006. .006, and  .012. I get my
next PSA next week. Concerned? I suppose, but it's not something I think
about. It's gonna do what it's gonna do, I can't do a damn thing about it of
any significance, WON'T do a damn thing 'til it does "come back", and will
decide WHAT to do WHEN it comes back, partly dependent on HOW it comes back.
PSA? Not unless it goes wild, if then. Mets or symptoms? Yeah, it's time to
act. How? Depends.

Damn. Seems our lives revolve around Depends whether we're continent or not.

I.P.
DP - 12 Jan 2006 18:06 GMT
> In 2004 I had RP surgery with a Gleason 6 and a PSA of 3.4 (age 68 at the
> time).  The surgery confirmed the orignal Gleason of 6, with the margins
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>
> Thank you

This is hardly an rise in PSA.  I feel that this is a problem with the ultra
sensitive test.  It gets guys worried about that second and third decimal
point. Even if the test was VERY accurate with no "noise", a change of such
small dimension is not really a trend yet.  I think your PSA of 0.01 is
excellent.

Dale P
 
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