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3rd annual: Are shoes the cause of prostate cancer?

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James Semmel - 05 Jan 2006 18:56 GMT
TO: All prostate cancer researchers, doctors, and patients.

I am a 35-year-old electrical engineer investigating the biomechanical
effects of shoes on degenerative diseases.  Each year I post about this
admittedly unusual connection, but thus far nobody has taken it
seriously.

Chiropodist Dr. Simon J. Wikler pioneered efforts to understand the
influences of shoes in the 1950's, but his work was neglected during
the subsequent drug- and diet-based approaches to medicine.  However,
the prolific footwear historian and podiatrist Dr. William A. Rossi
clearly demonstrated throughout his publications that shoes influence
the posture of the human body.  Therefore, using the posture-based
approaches to medicine of the distinguished orthopedist Dr. Joel E.
Goldthwait, I have expanded Dr. Wikler's insightful work to include a
variety of illnesses and conditions whose causes remain unknown.

Prostate cancer is just one example of diseases that are related to the
use of footwear.  The postural changes from wearing shoes include
sagging abdominal contents, visibly producing a potbelly in some men.
Of the internal damage lurking beneath the surface in all men, Dr.
Wikler writes, "Not all the pressure of the sagging diaphragm and
abdominal organs is dispersed through the anteriorly bulging abdomen; a
considerable portion of this pressure is directed backward against the
pelvic organs.  These organs, lying in a bony bowl, cannot escape the
injury and pressure from above.  In the male the prostate, being the
firmest organ, is particularly prone to injury.  Such mechanical forces
also cause a squeezing of the lower abdominal blood and lymph vessels
in the process, interfering with drainage of the prostate."  Diminished
circulation must surely influence hormonal balance and regulation, but
poor posture would also seem to disturb muscular control in the pelvic
region, such that the prostate cannot be fully voided or drained,
likewise contributing to male sterility.  Possible outcomes from faulty
body mechanics thus include congestion, hypertrophy, infection,
inflammation, irritation, or malignancy of the prostate gland.

You may find my thesis regarding shoes and disease on the Internet at:

http://www.shoebusters.com

My outlined treatment involves removing the cause, but resorting to
wide-toed, soft-soled moccasins; regularly applying a contrast bath, or
more descriptively, an alternate cold-hot footbath, to maintain
flexibility in the feet; rehabilitation of the abdominal muscles, via
forced exhalation, to balance the feet; and getting plenty of rest.

Thank you very much for considering my novel approach.

James Semmel
Albuquerque, NM
c palmer - 05 Jan 2006 19:26 GMT
From: feetback@shoebusters.com (James Semmel) put forth this thought:

Prostate cancer is just one example of diseases that are related to the
use of footwear.
==============

WOW!!!!! (smacking myself on the forehead)  

that's explains it!!!!

that's why the cave man never had prostate cancer.......

~ curtis

knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional    
"Many more men die with prostate cancer than of it. Growing old is
invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so."
http://community.webtv.net/PALMER_ENT/doc
Ben - 06 Jan 2006 16:42 GMT
The human mind for the most part is opposed to new ideas. Shoes and
posture?
Sounds ridiculous! Maybe James  got somthing who knows? The medical
profession laughed at and scorned Pasteur's ideas for years. "Imagine
having to wash your hands before operating"
Ben
DonC - 06 Jan 2006 18:10 GMT
> The human mind for the most part is opposed to new ideas. Shoes and
> posture?
> Sounds ridiculous! Maybe James  got somthing who knows? The medical
> profession laughed at and scorned Pasteur's ideas for years. "Imagine
> having to wash your hands before operating"
> Ben

Yup!  Maybe a 1 in a million chance : )
Mary Fisher - 06 Jan 2006 20:59 GMT
From: feetback@shoebusters.com (James Semmel) put forth this thought:

Prostate cancer is just one example of diseases that are related to the
use of footwear.
==============

WOW!!!!! (smacking myself on the forehead)

that's explains it!!!!

that's why the cave man never had prostate cancer.......

And I thought that men's pot bellies were because they ate (or drank) too
much ...

Mary

~ curtis
Alan Meyer - 05 Jan 2006 19:34 GMT
> TO: All prostate cancer researchers, doctors, and patients.
>
> I am a 35-year-old electrical engineer investigating the biomechanical
> effects of shoes on degenerative diseases.  Each year I post about this
> admittedly unusual connection, but thus far nobody has taken it
> seriously.
...

James,

Forgive my bluntness, but I think this hypothesis is
pretty silly.  You don't seem to have a single piece
of evidence for it, just a lot of very far out speculations.

Why not consider even more closely associated mechanical
causes like wearing underpants, or tightening belts
too tightly, or using metallic zippers, or carrying coins
in a pocket, or sitting in chairs, or sleeping in soft beds,
or sleeping in hard beds, or sleeping in beds with metal
springs, or sleeping in beds without metal springs, and
so on, and so on.

Unless you have some evidence for a theory, and some
way to test it, you've got nothing but pure BS.

If I were you I'd give up the shoe investigation and get
back to mechanical engineering.

   Alan
James Semmel - 05 Jan 2006 20:46 GMT
Alan,

The incidence of prostate cancer increases with age, during a time when
a person's posture clearly deteriorates.  Most people are totally
oblivious to these changes in their body.  However, by maintaining good
posture into old age, the prostate gland remains healthy.

The reason I pick on shoes is that they are the most fundamental
influence on posture.  Good posture begins with the feet.

james
c palmer - 05 Jan 2006 21:15 GMT
james - my dad had excellent posture - when he was well into his
eighties and he had prostate cancer.  his back was as straight as
someone in their 20's.  had no problems with his feet.

it wasn't until the prostate cancer mest. into his spine, that he showed
any signs of posture problems.

i can understand why you might go this direction of the feet for certain
symptoms of the human body in general.  

if one looks at reflexology, i've seen the results of that.  

i just can't offer any evidence for what you are seeking.

~ curtis

knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional    
"Many more men die with prostate cancer than of it. Growing old is
invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so."
http://community.webtv.net/PALMER_ENT/doc
Alex - 05 Jan 2006 21:59 GMT
> Alan,
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> james

The incidence of prostate cancer increases with age, during a time when
men's eyesight begins to grow less sharp, when they begin to show signs of
baldness, and when they get married, go to work and have children.

Clearly, marriage and kids are why we squint, lose our hair and get prostate
cancer.

Now, how do I get Blue Cross to pay for my bachelor's life on a shoeless
tropical island?

Alex
Alan Meyer - 05 Jan 2006 23:58 GMT
> Alan,
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> james

James,

You sound like a serious person, and I appreciate your
responding to people's criticism of your position here, but
it appears to me that you have a seriously inadequate
undertanding of scientific method.

As Alex pointed out in his humorous examples, lots of
things are statistically associated.  Sometimes they are
even linked to each other.  But statistical association
is, at best, a starting point for investigation.  It does NOT,
by itself, indicate anything about cause and effect.

In your case, there isn't even any demonstrated
statistical association.  You claim that older people
have worse posture.  But do you know that for a fact?
I see lots of young people with terrible posture.

Do you have any evidence whatsoever that older people
with prostate cancer have or had worse posture than older
people without prostate cancer?

Do you have any evidence that older people with
bad posture have worn worse shoes than older people
without bad posture, or that older people with prostate
cancer wore shoes more often, or wore shoes that were
worse, than older people without prostate cancer?

As for people who don't wear shoes, there seems
to be just as much _prima facie_ reason to believe
that the surfaces they walk on have an effect on
posture as to believe that shoes cause it.  Do people
walking without shoes on cement floors have better
or worse posture than people walking with shoes on
cement floors, or people walking with or without shoes
on African savannahs, or in forests, or in Alaska, or
in the desert, or on carpetted floors?

Seriously James, you should have learned these
basic scientific principles in your mechanical engineering
courses.  You need to revisit your old science books.

   Alan
Brian - 06 Jan 2006 02:29 GMT
> James,
>
> You sound like a serious person, and I appreciate your responding to
> people's criticism of your position here, but it appears to me that you
> have a seriously inadequate undertanding of scientific method.

James;

If your grasp of mechanical engineering is as bad as your grasp of
the scientific method (as manifested in this posting of yours), I don't
want you designing a tire-on-a-rope-on-a-tree swing for anybody I care
about.
James Semmel - 06 Jan 2006 21:06 GMT
Alan,

You raised good points.  For example, Japanese men get less prostate
cancer than American men, and Japanese men remove their shoes upon
entering the home.  We still need a physical explanation to separate
this statistical conclusion from pure nonsense.

Well, when a person wears shoes, the big toes point laterally, which
collapses the main arch, rotates the lower leg bones internally,
rotates the upper leg bones externally, and tilts the pelvis forward
displacing organs and placing pressure on glands like the prostate.
Circulation is certainly affected.

The point is that there is physical evidence that shoes are involved in
just about every major human illness.  Take a look at the pictures on
my webpage comparing a natural foot to a deformed foot.

james
c palmer - 06 Jan 2006 21:43 GMT
From: feetback@shoebusters.com (James Semmel)
Alan,

You raised good points. For example, Japanese men get less prostate
cancer than American men, and Japanese men remove their shoes upon
entering the home. We still need a physical explanation to separate this
statistical conclusion from pure nonsense.
Well, when a person wears shoes, the big toes point laterally, which
collapses the main arch, rotates the lower leg bones internally, rotates
the upper leg bones externally, and tilts the pelvis forward displacing
organs and placing pressure on glands like the prostate. Circulation is
certainly affected.
The point is that there is physical evidence that shoes are involved in
just about every major human illness. Take a look at the pictures on my
webpage comparing a natural foot to a deformed foot.
james
========
hi james - you don't think that japanese men have a lower incidence of
prostate cancer because they have a lower fat in their diet?   studies
have shown that lower diet does reduce chances of prostate cancer.

but just as japanese men who have had a low fat diet and took their
shoes off developed prostate cancer,  i can't help but wonder what they
are thinking that they did wrong in order that they have this disease.  

maybe it was because their grandfather.... father and two brothers had
pca too?

~ curtis

knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional    
"Many more men die with prostate cancer than of it. Growing old is
invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so."
http://community.webtv.net/PALMER_ENT/doc
Steve Kramer - 06 Jan 2006 22:38 GMT
From: feetback@shoebusters.com (James Semmel)
Alan,

You raised good points. For example, Japanese men get less prostate
cancer than American men, and Japanese men remove their shoes upon
entering the home.

I generally wear shoes from the time I wake up to the time I go to bed.
Always have.

And now I have prostate cancer.

Proof.

Signature

PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA  .1  .1  .1  .27  .37  .75
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA  .34 .22 .15 .21 .32
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05, 5/05, 10/05
PSA  .07 .05 .06 .05 .08
Non Illegitimi Carborundum

I.P. Freely - 06 Jan 2006 23:58 GMT
"Steve Kramer" wrote>

> I generally wear shoes from the time I wake up to the time I go to bed.
> Always have.
>
> And now I have prostate cancer.
>
> Proof.

I went barefoot until I was about 10, except in midwinter and while in
school. I've worn loose sandals or no footwear for much of the past 20
summers. I have PC and CC, but have seen no elephants for many years now.

Proof.

Of WHAT, I don't know, but I'm sure some weiner could tell me.

I.P.
Netmask - 06 Jan 2006 08:23 GMT
I would suggest a simpler and more pleasant way to clear the "prostate
gland"

"a w.nk a day keeps the urologist away"

Radical nearly 2 years ago. PSA currently 0.01

> Alan,
>
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>
> james
Pops - 06 Jan 2006 14:34 GMT
James,

I get a feeling you are grasping at straws. It's to bad! You've got
that overwhelming drive to find some simple, controllable condition
that will elminate the possibiltiy of you getting cancer.

There may be such controlls. Prostate incidence demographics suggests
that for our disease, but it ain't as simple as the shoes you wear.
Sorry!

I suggest you spend a half hour or so (you said you are a engineer -
understanding should come relaltively quickly) reading up on cancer as
a general disease. Yup - all cancers have some things in common. That
research should suffice to prove to you that posture ain't gonna matter
one iota.

Meanwhile - please go back to school. An engineer ( I am one with
multiple degrees and 40 years experience from design to management) who
allows himself to draw such conclusions missed something serious.

..... or maybe you're just pullin' our puds....

By the way? Did you have anything to do with the design of the
Shuttle's external fuel tanks?

(Just kidding - couldn't help myself)
James Semmel - 06 Jan 2006 20:57 GMT
Pops,

I'm definitely not grasping at straws.  A connection between posture
and health is not that far-fetched.  It's quite accessible, but
requires some interest in anatomy.

Moreover, I'm not trying to eliminate the possibility of disease.
Gravity is always acting on the skeleton, pulling it down towards the
ground.  Unless a person makes some effort to counteract that force,
their posture tends to slump as they age, thus disturbing the function
of internal glands and organs.

james
DonC - 05 Jan 2006 22:53 GMT
James,

Today is NOT April 1

Cheers

> TO: All prostate cancer researchers, doctors, and patients.
>
[quoted text clipped - 46 lines]
> James Semmel
> Albuquerque, NM
Steve Jordan - 05 Jan 2006 23:12 GMT
"James Semmel" has been roundly criticized for:
> TO: All prostate cancer researchers, doctors, and patients.
>  
(snip absurdities)

Now, now, kids. At least he's not advocating swallowing one's own waste
products =-O

Just because he has no idea what he's doing, and doesn't know what a
degenerative disease is....

Tut tut.

Just enjoy the silliness.

Regards,

Steve J

"A man's most valuable trait is a judicious sense of what not to believe."
-- Euripides
Brian - 06 Jan 2006 02:25 GMT
> TO: All prostate cancer researchers, doctors, and patients.
>
> I am investigating the biomechanical effects of shoes on ...

Wearing shoes correlates very closely with reading ability.  People with
the smallest feet almost uniformly have no reading ability.  When people's
feet stop growing, almost uniformly their reading ability stops improving.

Clearly, learning to read makes your feet grow!  This effect is so
powerful, that being around people learning to read will make your feet
grow, even if you studiously avoid picking up this skill!

> Each year I post about this admittedly unusual connection, but thus far
> nobody has taken it seriously.

As a humorist of the pathetically absurd, I greatly appreciate your post.
Got anything more like it?
 
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