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judamd@aol.com - 17 Dec 2005 19:21 GMT
Worst case scenario:  You have insurance with normal medicare assigned
to your insurance and you decide to get Medicare Part D through some
outside provider such as your local chain pharmacy since it is the
least expensive source of your meds.  Because you will be "double
dipping" as defined by Medicare, your assigned medicare benefits will
be cancelled and your medical insurance which was part of the package
will also be cancelled.  Your only option at that point is to rejoin
your medical provider at the normal, non-medicare assisted rates.  In
addition, if your insurance is provided through an employer with a once
per year open enrollment period, it is unclear whether or not you can
get back in before the open enrollment period comes around again.  Most
HMO's have their own Part D access and you could get it through them
with no penalties.  However, be sure to ask first.

In addition, not all medications are paid for with Part D.  If you have
two or more conditions typical of the frail, elderly such as diabetes
and hypertension, you are eligible but if all you have is prostate
cancer and taking lupron, you are not eligible.  And even so you only
save money beyond the donut hole which is somewhere around $2500.

I'm no expert on this stuff but I would think seriously about what
you're doing before signing up for anything related to Part D.  You
don't want to save $50 per month for medications (or maybe nothing if
your medications or condition don't qualify) and end up paying $1000
per month or more just to reinstate your insurance.

Beware when a government official says "We're here to help you."
Dave Perry
---MIKE--- - 17 Dec 2005 21:24 GMT
Medicare Part D is a sham unless you are paying many thousands a year
for medications.  I would be better off paying for my Fosamax than by
getting it through Medicare D.

                 ---MIKE---
>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
>> (44° 15'  N - Elevation 1580')
Steve Jordan - 17 Dec 2005 22:54 GMT
On December 17, Mike wrote:

>Medicare Part D is a sham unless you are paying many thousands a year
>for medications.  I would be better off paying for my Fosamax than by
>getting it through Medicare D.
>  

Well, it certainly is complex. but my simple arithmetic tells me that,
of the $200+ that I'm now spending per month for meds. I'll save ~$70,
net after premium, deductible and copays. *That* is simple enough even
for me.

Regards,

Steve J

Epitaph for a wasted life:

"He lived beneath the moon
   And slept beneath the sun.
   He lived a life of going to do
   And died with nothing done."
-- Anonymous
olfart - 17 Dec 2005 23:14 GMT
 On December 17, Mike wrote:
Medicare Part D is a sham unless you are paying many thousands a year
for medications.  I would be better off paying for my Fosamax than by
getting it through Medicare D.
 Well, it certainly is complex. but my simple arithmetic tells me that, of the $200+ that I'm now spending per month for meds. I'll save ~$70, net after premium, deductible and copays. That is simple enough even for me.

 Regards,

 Steve J

 Epitaph for a wasted life:

  "He lived beneath the moon
     And slept beneath the sun.
     He lived a life of going to do
     And died with nothing done."
 -- Anonymous

 That's $70 on the meds you are taking now. What will you need 6 months from now?? Insurance is a bit of a crap shoot - so you "pays your money and you takes your chances". My meds are around $300/month and I really don't expect the cost ever go down.
Steve Jordan - 17 Dec 2005 23:37 GMT
Quoting me regarding my anticipated net saving on rxs with Part D:

>     That's $70 on the meds you are taking now. What will you need 6
>     months from now?? Insurance is a bit of a crap shoot - so you
>     "pays your money and you takes your chances". My meds are around
>     $300/month and I really don't expect the cost ever go down.

I dunno what I'll need six months in the future. I just hope that the
benefit is proportionate.

And re: insurance, I've been in the claims business (not med claims,
thank Bog) for most of what passes for my adult life. Insurers dislike
the simile, but I think it's a fact that they bet that the insured will
not sustain a loss and the insured bets that he will. An insurance
policy is a useless piece of paper *until *a loss occurs. Then, the
insured must hope that his insurer is ethical -- and solvent.

OT aside: my car was stolen last July. GEICO will not pay the true
market value and five months later we're still arguing.

Regards,

Steve J

"Men occasionally stumble on the truth, but most of them pick themselves
up and hurry off as if nothing had happened."
-- Sir Winston L. S. Churchill
 
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