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Gay Men and Prostate Cancer

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darrylmit@gmail.com - 13 Dec 2005 14:58 GMT
Just curious if the gay men on this list knew of the book, "A Gay Man's
Guide to Prostate Cancer," and the gay men with prostate cancer support
groups, run by the nonprofit, Malecare.  I am part of that nonprofit
and I was wondering how well known it is.  Thanks, Darryl
c palmer - 13 Dec 2005 15:10 GMT
hi darryl - i found this posted at another prostate newsgroup.

what is your opinion on what they said....

~ curtis

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<john.mcnerney-nospam@cox.net> wrote:
I have heard recently that the incidence of prostate cancer in active
gay men is much lower than in heterosexual or abstinent men, and the
reason is that they are routinely having their prostate glands massaged.
I wonder if there is any truth to this. I went online to find a device
that would massage my prostate, and found a variety of sex toys. Now
don't get me wrong, I'm not prudish, nor am I gay, but my motive for
perhaps trying one of these devices on a regular basis would be prostate
health.

knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional    
"Many more men die with prostate cancer than of it. Growing old is
invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so."
http://community.webtv.net/PALMER_ENT/doc
Steve Kramer - 14 Dec 2005 00:21 GMT
I have not been apart of more accepting group of people than we have in this
NG.  I cannot imagine that an all-gay-all-the-time newsgroups could possibly
surpass the assistance a gay man might get here.

Furthermore, there does not seem to be any association between prostate
cancer and sexual orientation.  So, any guide to surviving prostate cancer
should work for the gay man.

I suspect it might only have the attention of intolerant gays.

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> Just curious if the gay men on this list knew of the book, "A Gay Man's
> Guide to Prostate Cancer," and the gay men with prostate cancer support
> groups, run by the nonprofit, Malecare.  I am part of that nonprofit
> and I was wondering how well known it is.  Thanks, Darryl
DP - 14 Dec 2005 18:02 GMT
I have not heard of it.  I have participated in some gay men's prostate
cancer groups at yahoo, but did not find become very active with them.

Dale P
Denver, CO
> Just curious if the gay men on this list knew of the book, "A Gay Man's
> Guide to Prostate Cancer," and the gay men with prostate cancer support
> groups, run by the nonprofit, Malecare.  I am part of that nonprofit
> and I was wondering how well known it is.  Thanks, Darryl
Ron B - 14 Dec 2005 20:17 GMT
I'd be curious...maybe our more scientifically inclined members could
weigh in...the topic of 'prostate massage' was mentioned as a possible
reason that gay men would have less PCa.

That didn't ring true, but I don't know.

Straight men...into that form of sexual play...could have had prostate
massages by their wives and lovers.

My main thought...

Why would that impact the development of cancer?

Thanks and good health to all,

Ron B.

Chicago
Steve Kramer - 15 Dec 2005 00:56 GMT
Ron, there have been studies conducted to look at the relationship between
PCa and sexual activity.  The findings have been mixed.  Some seem to
indicated the more sex you have, the less chance of PCa.  Others seem to
show celibate priests are in deep do do when it comes to PCa.  And, of
course some seemed to indicated that too much sex may increase the chances
of cancer.

If one adopts the philosophy that sex helps, then directly massaging the
prostate would seem to be a rational extension.

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PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA  .1  .1  .1  .27  .37  .75
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA  .34 .22 .15 .21 .32
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05, 5/05, 10/05
PSA  .07 .05 .06 .05 .08
Non Illegitimi Carborundum

> I'd be curious...maybe our more scientifically inclined members could
> weigh in...the topic of 'prostate massage' was mentioned as a possible
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>
> Chicago
DP - 16 Dec 2005 19:49 GMT
I recall many years ago (in the 1980's) that some research institute was
trying to get volunteers of gay men of all ages to start a tracking of the
incidence of prostate cancer.  The goal was to see if the incident was
higher, lower, or the same as straight men.  The idea was that prostate
stimulation, massage could have an effect on the rate of cancer.
Unfortunately, the study was dropped not many years after it started.  The
reason given was that too many of the men willing to be in the study group
were dieing of AIDS.  Personally, I don't think the incident of PCa is any
different for gay men, but there are no statistics to prove anything.

Dale P
Denver, CO
 
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