I think Robert will find what he's seeking on the Prostate Problems
Mailing List at: http://ppml.acor.org/welcome.html#subscription
This is a service of the Association of Cancer On-line Resources.

and/or

The Circle at circle@prostatepointers.org
This is a service of UsToo! International

I look forward to meeting him there.

Regards,

Steve J

"No man is an Island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the
Continent, a part of the main; if a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a
manor of thy friends or of thine own were; any man's death diminishes
me, because I am involved in Mankind; And therefore never send to know
for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee."
-- John Donne

 What you want is surely and easily available here sir. A couple of OT
threads do not in the least diminish our ability and desire to help. Ask
away.  With so much potential doom and gloom 24/7 we're entitled to a break
once in awhile don't cha think? ; )

Give us a second chance, Robert.  Apart from an occasional flight of fancy
there really is much good information here and very frank discussions.
Subject lines are usually helpful but, like other newsgroups, we often go
off chasing rabbit trails.

Ken Bland

It's not common, Robert. Don't worry about it, and appreciate the fact that
our common bond far overrides our uncommon differences. We've seen far more
raucus discussions of legitimate PC issues than of OT stuff, and unlike
shallower forums, I have yet to notice anyone's OT opinions taint their PC
opinions or others' acceptance thereof.

I.P.

"I. P. Freely" wrote

I should add that you may have missed the argument that religion and even
politics affect PC treatment in several ways, including access to medical
care in different countries and under different administrations, tradeoffs
between QOL and life extension, euthanasia, less contradictory legal issues
such as power of attorney and living wills, and drug approval and access.
Once the topic is brought up, it strays sometimes. I have yet to see OT
discussions get out of hand in the year I've been here, unlike most forums
where"gunfire" often erupts within two Send/Receive cycles.

I.P.

<snip>

I was one of the first to respond to Stavros' post enadeavouring to
steer him away to a more appropriate news group plus positively
stating I didn't drag my knuckles on the ground [evolution vs
creation]

It was the "Ugly Americans" who swiftly converted the thread to
Religion.

Anyway, none of them ever pay attention to me as I'm a crocodile
dancer from down under, and therefore inferior to members of the
greatest screwed up Nation in the World LOL.

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Please let me assure you that what you are looking for is certainly here on
this ng, as it has been for me. I myself was so bewildered and ignorant
about PCa when I came here after my diagnosis and learned what I needed to
know from knowledgeable and caring people, whom I all respect, each and
every one.  And wise and good advice.   It's a privilege to be here and, as
you state, a God-send." .  .

From: rjcaron@adelphia.net (Robert J Caron)

As a "newbie" that is looking for prostate information from people who
are going through, or have been through the many aspects of PC, I really
thought this newsgroup would be a "God Send", instead, in reading posts
for the last several days, I have found a small group of men that are
very well educated in PC,,using this group for their personal "chat
line" to argue of all things,"Religion", and other non PC subjects.
Carry on Gentleman.

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hi robert - if you notice the title of this newsgroup. it does say
"support".  

for you to come along and blast away with your judgement about our off
topics is your business.  everyone is entitled to their opinion.

but i will point out that if you do a google search about all the past
posts, you will find that there is a lot of GREAT support here.

and in my opinion - support covers the ENTIRE individual.   that
includes computer problems to religion to anything else that affects how
they feel.  

prostate cancer has changed our lives so much that things in the past
that didn't bother us then - do now.

for me - i don't handle stress as well.  so, if i were to comment about
something off topic because it bothers me, am i out of line.

by your definition - i would be.

just giving you some points to ponder, robert.

reflect back on the overall purpose of this newsgroup and then draw your
own conclusions.

best wishes.....

~ curtis

knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional    
"Many more men die with prostate cancer than of it. Growing old is
invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so."
http://community.webtv.net/PALMER_ENT/doc

Robert,

This NG is a God-send!  Don't leave because of a few.  Instead, when you see
a thread going astray, just delete the rest of the thread.  It's been my
experience that nothing valuable is mentioned after these men forget they
are in an prostate cancer group.