Hello All,
I have sent in prior, and concerning my PSA.
Well, I got directions from my Dr. to get a blood draw here in our little
town.
They balked and asked for a diagnosis....The Lab could not draw blood until
they had a diagnosis....I told them I had Prostate Cancer and was getting my
yearly test......
Finally they talked to the nurse, got the diagnosis, (PC) and drew my blood.
The nurse said she would send me by fax my results.....
She would also send the result to my Dr. who requested my blood draw for my
now yearly test, and to this day....more than 8 days later, I got my
billing, and no test results.....
Funny how the bill comes quicker than the result.
I really get discouraged to go to Dr.s and to get help when I go to get a
simple PSA test, I get my bill before my result.
Normally when I get a tire changed, I get the bill and the result.
After the amout of time, and getting a bill, and no result, I am not happy
with the american medical system...
Funny, this is not the first time!
Just venting..........
Jeeeeeees
John Loomis
Beverley - 18 Aug 2005 03:41 GMT
I'm still crossing my fingers for you.
Bev
> Hello All,
> I have sent in prior, and concerning my PSA.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> Jeeeeeees
> John Loomis
Buttercup's Dad - 18 Aug 2005 12:07 GMT
Is it normal for a lab to send results directly to the patient? The info I
get is always from the doctor's office.
Best of luck to you though on the results. No news in this case is probably
good news because your doc certainly would have called if something looked
wrong.
David S.
> Hello All,
> I have sent in prior, and concerning my PSA.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> Jeeeeeees
> John Loomis
Stephen Jordan - 18 Aug 2005 17:41 GMT
On August 18, Buttercup's Dad inquired, in pertinent part:
> Is it normal for a lab to send results directly to the patient? The info I
> get is always from the doctor's office.
I believe that labs will not send a copy of a patient's test results
directly to him unless the lab has specific instructions from the ordering
medic to do so. Frankly, I think it's patronizing and a damned imposition.
I have instructed my medics always to include the necessary directions in
the lab order, and I do receive the results directly -- except when the lab
neglects to follow the order. That happens, and I raise hell when it does.
It's just part of what I preach: take charge of your case.
Regards,
Steve J
"You must pay for conformity. All goes well as long as you run with
conformists. But you, who are honest men in other particulars, know that
there is alive somewhere a man whose honesty reaches to this point also,
that he shall not kneel to false gods, and, on the day when you meet him,
you sink into the class of counterfeits."
-- Ralph Waldo Emerson
SY - 18 Aug 2005 19:45 GMT
A patient has the right to access his or her medical record, including
his lab results. All one has to do is to full out and turn in a
release request at the time a specimen is collected.
>On August 18, Buttercup's Dad inquired, in pertinent part:
>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>you sink into the class of counterfeits."
>-- Ralph Waldo Emerson
Stephen Jordan - 20 Aug 2005 00:20 GMT
On august 19, SY responded to my rant:
> A patient has the right to access his or her medical record, including
> his lab results. All one has to do is to full out and turn in a
> release request at the time a specimen is collected.
AIUI, it depends upon the jurisdiction.
Here in Aridzona, the lab idiots insist that the pt cannot have a copy of
the lab result unless the medic authorizes it. Yes, they're wrong.
Believing in the path of least resistance, I make sure that any lab order
includes instructions to copy me. If I forget (after all, I'm on ADT,
right?), it is quite convenient to write in the instruction on the order.
But I would never admit to having done so......
But if it came right down to it, I'm prepared to ask a court to stuff it up
their corporate nose.
Has anyone else noticed how patronizing the staff personnel of one's medic
can be? Or am I just cranky? Or do I have a perfect right to be cranky? Huh?
Regards,
Steve J
Justin Case - 18 Aug 2005 17:47 GMT
> Hello All,
> I have sent in prior, and concerning my PSA.
<Considerable text snipped here>
> After the amout of time, and getting a bill, and no result, I am not happy
> with the american medical system...
I'm sorry about this experience of yours, John, but I think it's less the
fault of the American medical system than coordination in your town, a
"little" town, in your words. In my case I'm receiving PSA checks on a
six-month schedule. I take the doctor's orders to the medical center, they
draw the blood, and notify my doctor, usually in less than 48 hours. The
attendants in the doctor's office often call me personally to inform me of
the results and schedule an appointment, which usually lasts no more than 5
or 10 minutes, during which time we express our mutual satisfaction with
what he did and how I am responding.
The size of the community in which I live is about 75,000. It that much
larger than yours?
Ken Bland
paul - 19 Aug 2005 00:57 GMT
> Hello All,
> I have sent in prior, and concerning my PSA.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> Jeeeeeees
> John Loomis
John & all:
Have your physician note on your PSA Rx: Copy report to patient, or
simply, "CC Patient".
My lab draws blood and has a report waiting for me by 11 AM the next day.
I get this note added to any and all Rx and orders producing a report. A
recent CT scan resulted in a full set of plates as well. (I did have to
wait two days though.)
You ARE entitled to your own records, but may have to pay for
transcription in some cases. Don't let them deny you!
Paul
Steve Kramer - 19 Aug 2005 20:57 GMT
Throw HIPPA at them. Tell them you're paying for it and you don't want to
share the result with your doctor.
Ha! That should cause some dissonance.

Signature
PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA .1 .1 .1 .27 .37 .75
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05
PSA .07 .05 .06 .05
non Illegitimi carborundum
> Hello All,
> I have sent in prior, and concerning my PSA.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> Jeeeeeees
> John Loomis
Stephen Jordan - 20 Aug 2005 00:52 GMT
On August 17, John Loomis wrote of his adverse experience with labs, in
pertinent part:
> Funny how the bill comes quicker than the result.
> I really get discouraged to go to Dr.s and to get help when I go to get a
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> with the american medical system...
> Funny, this is not the first time!
I reckon that Señor Loomis means funny peculiar, not funny ha ha.
This is a fine example of the patronizing attitude patients encounter all
too often in their contacts with the medical care "system."
I recommend the following response to this outrage: *raise general and
particular hell* I have successfully done so in the case of Sonora Quest Labs.
We patients are consumers of a service that the medics offer. Perhaps, if
enough of us have the intestinal fortitude to insist upon our rights, we
will actually enjoy those rights. Every one of the health-care providers
with which we deal has competitors. Exploit that fact. In short, as a
famous civil-rights activist whose name I disremember said, "agitate,
agitate, agitate!
But I'm not optimistic. Remember the "God complex" of so many medics, which
cows the uninitiated and the fearful.
I'm certainly ranting a lot, today.
Regards,
Steve J
"'MD' does not mean 'Medical Deity.'"
-- Stephen B. Strum, MD