History (again)
Diagnosed 12/2004
LRP 1/2005
pathology showed two tumors, no breach, no lymph nodes, no seminal
vesicles. prognosis for cure good.
PSA 4/2005 = .24
set up for EBRT
PSA 5/2005 = <.1
cancelled EBRT
PSA 6/2005 = .12
wait for next reading
PSA 7/2005 = <.1 !!
still on hold
Next PSA and URO visit 8/24 - they're still not sure why it's moving up
and down.
Feelin' good and keepin' the faith
Steve Kramer - 21 Jul 2005 11:17 GMT
This is proof, I think, that the doc jumped the gun. I dont' know what the
future holds, but your tracking towards a cure right now.

Signature
PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA .1 .1 .1 .27 .37 .75
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05
PSA .07 .05 .06 .05
non Illegitimi carborundum
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> Feelin' good and keepin' the faith
keith340@webtv.net - 21 Jul 2005 11:29 GMT
POPS!!
It is always wonderful to hear good news!!!
Keith Lundy/So. California
40 Proton Beam Radiation Treatments
Loma Linda Univ.Med Ctr..3/03-5/03
ronju99 - 21 Jul 2005 12:48 GMT
Pops,
You don't know for sure that the PSA is moving up and down. All you are
looking at are numbers. When the Doc says he doesn't know why the numbers
are moving up and down, shows he's not very intuitive. There are a number
of reasons that could explain the different numbers. The first number .24
is really meaningless as right after surgery there can be some residual
psa still in the system. The .12 could very well be the lab equipment
needs calibrated or fixed. I'm two years out from my LRP and have had two
1 results but they came from the same lab at Quest Diagnostics. All the
rest have been <.1 at other labs. I did a followup from the last .1 I had
four days later at another lab at my expense and the results were <.06. Be
patient and don't rush to judgement on the results. As long as you are
getting <.1 I wouldn't worry about it. You might even try having the blood
draw taken to another lab and have an ultra-sensitive test run. I'm not a
doctor just a survivor but when your urologist was so quick to consider
EBRT and can't explain what might cause your results to vary, I would
consider a second opinion. Side effects of EBRT is not plesent and will
have long term effects on your body.
Ron S.
Alan Meyer - 22 Jul 2005 01:27 GMT
I don't fault Pops' doctor too much here. There is evidence
that salvage radiation is most effective when given relatively
soon after PSA failure is detected. So the doc was being
diligent in scheduling the radiation.
I also wonder about residual PSA three months after RP. That's
a long time for residual PSA to stay in the body.
Maybe the screwed up test explanation is the right one.
Maybe the lab mixed up two samples, or transcribed a number
incorrectly.
Whatever the explanation, it's truly fortunate that Pops asked
for a second test to confirm the first one. Where the doctor
fell down here was that he failed to follow the old carpenter's
rule - "Measure twice, cut once."
Alan