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RRP and sex

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xten - 20 Jul 2005 01:34 GMT
hi,

I wonder if others can share their experiences on when they achieved
sufficient hardness for UNAIDED sex after RRP.

That is no viagra etc.

18 months after RRP I can get it up after manual stimulation but it is not
really hard until near orgasm when
it does become somewhat hard. The hardness does not stay long after orgasm.

The question I guess is

boy, do I wish I could get back to pre RRP hardness.
Is anyone as good as they were before RRP ?

Looking for hope.
Leonard Evens - 20 Jul 2005 02:04 GMT
> hi,
>
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> really hard until near orgasm when
> it does become somewhat hard. The hardness does not stay long after orgasm.

You can  have sex even if you are not as hard as you once were.  Once
you penetrate, things may take care of themselves.

Also, why don't you try Viagra or one of the other drugs?

> The question I guess is
>
> boy, do I wish I could get back to pre RRP hardness.
> Is anyone as good as they were before RRP ?

My erections aren't as firm as they were before surgery, but my wife an
I have managed to continue our sex life pretty closely to what we did
before surgery.  We did that even before erections returned by use of a
pump.

> Looking for hope.
Steve Kramer - 20 Jul 2005 02:11 GMT
My first unaided, usable erection was during May 2002.  My RRP was December
2000.  It was not and never will be anything like the pre-RRP regidity.

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PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA  .1  .1  .1  .27  .37  .75
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA  .34 .22 .15 .21 .32
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05
PSA  .07 .05 .06 .05
non Illegitimi carborundum

> hi,
>
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>
> Looking for hope.
xten - 20 Jul 2005 04:12 GMT
hi,

This is something I was never told.

I guess no body gets back to their original hardness ??????????? please ?

So "no significant after effects" DOES NOT MEAN BACK TO ORIGINAL HARDNESS
!!!!

> hi,
>
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>
> Looking for hope.
James A. Honeychuck - 20 Jul 2005 08:43 GMT
I guess so, I don't know.  Probably a lot of guys do, but they don't
post here because they've moved on.

Sometimes I don't know why I post here.  Just here to give the newbies
some encouragement.  I'm no help with complications, sorry.

jimhoney
standard RRP age 52, cured, no significant aftereffects

> hi,
>
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>>
>>Looking for hope.
xten - 20 Jul 2005 12:31 GMT
hi,

that's discouraging.

Your byline says "no significant after effects"

does that mean you have the same hardness or that
you dont consider that a significant after effect ?

> I guess so, I don't know.  Probably a lot of guys do, but they don't
> post here because they've moved on.
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> >>
> >>Looking for hope.
Leonard Evens - 20 Jul 2005 15:50 GMT
> hi,
>
> This is something I was never told.
>
> I guess no body gets back to their original hardness ??????????? please ?

Some men do.  You really have to wait and see.  Also, just worrying
about the degree of hardness will almost guarantee that you will have
problems.  If you can obtain an erection sufficient for penetration,
just go ahead with your sex life and try not to worry about it.  If you
need help, such a drugs, or injections or whatever, ditto.  Of course,
that is easier said than done, but it iw worth a try.

> So "no significant after effects" DOES NOT MEAN BACK TO ORIGINAL HARDNESS
> !!!!
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>>
>>Looking for hope.
chris m - 20 Jul 2005 13:02 GMT
> hi,
>
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>
> Looking for hope.

Hi,

Some good news and bad news.  I am hesitant to post my post-op progress
because all has gone too well, but I do so because I have a feeling
that this newsgroup is much read by newbies who have just found out
they have joined the club and are looking for reassurance and info.

I had my RRP in April of this year. I had 1/4 of one nerve removed.   I
was continient from the time the catheter came out.  I was able to
sustain an erection 4 weeks after.  My only concern was that the first
time I had an orgasm, during manual stimulation, I squirted urine over
my shoulder.  I had learned here and elsewhere that this is normal.  

In the past weeks I feel my erection is as hard, and lasts as long, as
before, with no chemical intervention.  I have also stopped leaking
urine during orgasm.  So all is as well as can be expected

On the negative side, the quality of the orgasm is no where near as
intense as before.  It is more of a flutter than all out release.  I
realize that I should be thankful for having orgasms at all, but this
really bothers me.  Its as if one of life's greatest pleasures, that
total exhaustive abandonment that comes with intense orgasms, is now
forever missing from my life.  I know this sounds extremely selfish but
that is the way it is.  

chris m
Leonard Evens - 20 Jul 2005 15:53 GMT
>>hi,
>>
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>
> chris m

Chris,

It may get better with time.   Also, it may depend on how you go about
it, so you might try alternate approaches in terms of length of
foreplay, or anything else that might make sense.
Peter Headland - 20 Jul 2005 17:10 GMT
> I am hesitant to post my post-op progress
> because all has gone too well

Spawny get!  :-)

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judamd@aol.com - 20 Jul 2005 22:39 GMT
With no usable erections I have resorted to manual manipulation of
little Willy kind of like rolling a walnut between thumb and fingers.
The old way, grasping the shaft by hand or utilizing a willing partner,
was really good but often not as good as now.  Although I miss the "old
way" and I will continue to keep trying with drugs and possibly shots
the next time I see the doctor, I am not disappointed in my current sex
life.  It is different than before as just about everyone here can
attest and while some of it is not as good, some of it is better, at
least for me.  I know everyone is different but try experimenting a
bit, you have nothing to lose.  Good luck.
Dave Perry
Steve Kramer - 21 Jul 2005 11:13 GMT
That's fantastic, Chris.  That's the best/fastest results I've heard of so
far.

I cannot imagine what is keep down the quality of the orgasm.  If erection
works, the orgasm should be about the same intensity, albeit dryly.

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PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA  .1  .1  .1  .27  .37  .75
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA  .34 .22 .15 .21 .32
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05
PSA  .07 .05 .06 .05
non Illegitimi carborundum

> > hi,
> >
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>
> chris m
Glassman - 21 Jul 2005 04:41 GMT
> hi,
>
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>
> Looking for hope.

   I'm 3 years post surgery and I can tell you that I still see very small
improvements. Your age, weight, BP etc is a big factor too.  I had real sex
about 4 months post RP.  I still can't get a spontaneous erection, but
manually stimulated it works fine as long as I'm upright. Laying down or on
side won't work.  Viagra-Levitra work,,, they really work well.  Even a
small piece of the pill is a wonder. The only one of the hundreds here that
claims it's as good as ever is old John Loomis.
  The truth is that you may never get back to what it was. NEVER.... but on
the other hand you don't have cancer anynmore. Pretty good tradeoff I think.

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