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sam - 30 Jun 2005 05:58 GMT
Ed:
Re: your paper describing your model of Prostate Cancer. It makes the
reference "....along with avoiding foods known to have
components that selectively bind to ER-β."  You may have discussed this
in the past, but as a relative newcome to this list I missed it-
specifically what foods or food groups are the ones to avoid?

Thanks
Ed Friedman - 30 Jun 2005 18:04 GMT
Sam wrote:
> Ed:
> Re: your paper describing your model of Prostate Cancer. It makes the
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> Thanks

Sam,

The main food to avoid is soy.  Basically, if you don't have prostate
cancer and take soy all of your life, then there is almost no chance of
getting prostate cancer (which is why Japan has the lowest rate in the
world).  However, if you already have any prostate cancer cells in you,
soy will decrease the rate of apoptosis (by increasing bcl-2), resulting
in a faster net doubling time for the cancer.

A more complete list of what to avoid is at:

http://www.prostatepointers.org/leibowitz/vitaminlist.10103.html

search for Genistein and read the next 2 paragraphs.

Ed Friedman
Bob Anthony - 03 Jul 2005 18:04 GMT
Dear Ed:

I read some of your postings and found them to be of most interest. I am
53 and in good health. Was dx last August and had RRLP in December. All
organ contained and PSA levels undetectable so far.
I am somewhat confused as to which vitamins to take now. I've read your
suggestions in your vitamin report, but this appeared to me as someone
who has an advanced case of PC and is still undergoing treatments.
Does this vitamin suggestion report still apply to someone with
undetectable PSA readings and undergoing no further treatments?
Of course, I am very interested in the apoptosis of any lingering cells.
Thank you.

PS: I am and always have worked out and exercised, keep my weight at
ideal levels, eat properly and took vitamins all of my life. Go figure...
Ed Friedman - 05 Jul 2005 17:59 GMT
> Dear Ed:
>
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> PS: I am and always have worked out and exercised, keep my weight at
> ideal levels, eat properly and took vitamins all of my life. Go figure...

Bob,

The most important vitamins to take now are probably lycopene and
Vitamin E complex plus selenium.  The most important food to avoid is
soy, but unless you are taking a 5AR2 inhibitor (e.g. propecia), then a
little soy probably would be ok.

The real problem is keeping your hormones at an ideal level.  Ideally,
you want high T, low DHT, and low E(like ordinary teenagers have).  As
you age, men's hormones levels tend to go in the opposite direction from
the ideal.  Unfortunately, ordinary doctors do not concern themselves
with such things, but there are some doctors out there that do.

Good luck,

Ed Friedman
 
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