This is about our experience with the Shaman so if this isn't for you, stop
reading.
I won't get too involved but let me say that when Curt and I arrived at
T.M's house Friday evening we were very nervous. we met Steven (the Shaman)
and the others that were going to be there. Steven can't work until dark and
since it doesn't get dark in Minnesota until almost 10 pm we had a bit of
time to kill. First Curt and I went to eat and when we got back everyone
wanted to go get a coffee so we walked up to a coffee shop and got better
aquainted.
Friday night Steven worked mostly on Curt. I can't describe what happened in
a way that you would believe but something happened and everyone there knew
it. He also helped a woman named Jan who had been cured of her breast cancer
but doesn't feel safe.she has been suffering from migraines and feels that
he removed them. she will know soon enough.
We came back for Saturday and Sunday night too. Tonight Steven in staying
with us in our humble home and curt will drive him to the airport tomorrow.
He isn't going back to Peru until August. he is staying in the states to
help Curt.
Last night he did some work on me too and it was very real. the vibrations
were real. I saw things that no one here would believe but that's ok because
I was there and so were 2 pyschologists. a few people opted out on last
night. if fact out of 4 women I was the only one there 3 nights.
Curt is fully believing that he can get better. He is still taking his
Lupron shots and his Procrit, and Zometa, taking his meds.
as far as the costs? those that were there for "spiritual experiences" paid
$400. we don't have to pay that. we can donate to his clinic whatever we
can. he has other "clients" to recoup those costs. It will cost more to eat
organic but that's ok. I think we are going to go stay with him in La Quinta
CA end of July. pro bono of course.
I believe that things we do come back on us. The week after Curt's diagnosis
we went on a scheduled trip to the Dominican Republic. we ran all over that
side of the island with locals. we helped people. one night I gave a young
man that we had met $20.00 for papers to work some food money and he showed
up the next night and showed us his papers that had just been issued that
day. we helped a Haitian man (total 4th class citizens there) with his rent
for a few months $60 and Curt literally gave him the shirt off his back, his
shoes, undergarments, toiletries, money, stamps and papers to write to us, a
spanish-english dictionary, we took him to places that he wasn't allowed to
go by himself. good restaurants etc.. we did this for about 6 months until
he blew it by listening to the wrong people and trying to get a large amount
of money out of us - any money we get together we take a trip- It's too bad
because we wanted to sponsor Filipe to come here to learn a trade so he
could support his mom and siblings in Haiti. There were a few men who were
jealous that we had taken Filipe under our wings and protection and they
wanted our help and friendship too but one in particular was very evil
inside and we believe that he is the one who thought up the scam. Filipe's
english wasn't very good and after a few phone calls this other man was
talking for him. too bad. but we couldn't deal with scams. as we aren't
here.
so there you go. I'll let you know his labs when we get them in a few weeks.
take care all
Lori
Beverley - 29 Jun 2005 13:25 GMT
It's very fascinating. I'm sure this man will help you to find peace and I
do hope he can help Curt.
Bev
> This is about our experience with the Shaman so if this isn't for you, stop
> reading.
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> Lori
David S. - 29 Jun 2005 17:28 GMT
Well Lori, I guess that is no more out of it than drinking your own urine in
order to cure PCa (Hi Howard, wherever you are). Just watch your
checkbook, please.
Good luck to you both.
> This is about our experience with the Shaman so if this isn't for you, stop
> reading.
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> Lori
gourd_dancer - 30 Jun 2005 04:55 GMT
Good luck. I sincerely hope that this is not in an American Indian format.
> This is about our experience with the Shaman so if this isn't for you,
> stop reading.
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>
> Lori
Radical R P'er - 30 Jun 2005 13:55 GMT
Gourd Dancer wrote:
Good luck. I sincerely hope that this is not in an American Indian format.
Be Careful there Gourd Dancer ! I happen to be an "American Indian" and a
prostate survivor. Don't make me start in on my Diversity training speech
about "Boat People" .
Besides they said he was from Peru. (europe I presume). Or I may have to
aask you to Explain yourself. Etc.
With that I'll go back to lurking. as I start a two week vacation and look
forward to a little "spiritual experience" with a gathering of basketmakers
next week in Bar harbor,Me.
Peace, and 'Woliwon'
O.F. Lolar
Penobscot Nation
Beverley - 30 Jun 2005 14:14 GMT
Ok, I'm green with envy. Two week vacation and spending it in Bar Harbor
with old friends and family. Now that is what I call taking the time to
smell the roses!!! (And the smell of lobster, clams, etc steaming away in a
sand pit.) What a lucky man you are!
Bev
> Gourd Dancer wrote:
> Good luck. I sincerely hope that this is not in an American Indian format.
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> O.F. Lolar
> Penobscot Nation
Radical R P'er - 30 Jun 2005 14:46 GMT
Hi, Bev,
Lucky! Yes in many ways. I will be among friends and family. which is what
we cherish the most. Sadly though one friend will not be able to make the
yearly gathering, as his battle with Pca has gotten worse (gone metatastic)
to his spine. and is too weak to travel anymore.
So we will be meeting his wife there for 'Spritual Prayers"..
Also, I will be meeting two other members and friends of whom also are Pca
survivors..
But! the Lobsters will be in August when we have our yearly Family
Gathering at my Wifes Niece Camp in Raymond to celebrate the memories of her
Uncle and my Hunting buddy who passed in 1968 of Colon Cancer at the age of
56. Of which I am right now.
So Yes I consider myself a lucky man, to have a wonderful family and
support from them and understanding people of the Newsgroup.
Oh and your all welcome to attend in Bar harbor, 1st Sat of every year in
July, Free Admission. with good food, Drumming,Dancing and Plenty of baskets
to buy..At the College of the Atlantic..
Peace To All
O.F. Lolar
Penobscot Indian Nation
gourd_dancer - 01 Jul 2005 06:46 GMT
A-ho my friend,
Did not see the Peru part.... Just have a thing about crystal people and
their sweats....... and the Mary Thunder's of the world.
Would you believe that I teach Diversity and now can borrow the phrase "Boat
People", I like that unique descriptor.
Take care.
> Gourd Dancer wrote:
> Good luck. I sincerely hope that this is not in an American Indian format.
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> O.F. Lolar
> Penobscot Nation
Lorelei - 01 Jul 2005 11:23 GMT
My gramma called the Hmong that were moving into Minneapolis in the
late '70's early '80s as "boat people" and the food co-op was called
"the hippie store" damn I miss that woman. it's only been 25 yrs but I
miss her like it was yesterday.
Lori
gourd_dancer - 01 Jul 2005 23:29 GMT
Wonder how your gramma would feel about being a "boat people" also,
lol...... Well, I assume that her relatives arrived in this country via
boat.......
> My gramma called the Hmong that were moving into Minneapolis in the
> late '70's early '80s as "boat people" and the food co-op was called
> "the hippie store" damn I miss that woman. it's only been 25 yrs but I
> miss her like it was yesterday.
> Lori
Heather - 02 Jul 2005 00:51 GMT
LOL!! I never thought about that. I guess we are all "boat
people"...unless there were some really good swimmers in England, etc. My
family has been in Canada for 6 generations and the Wright brothers hadn't
been born yet (1820 we arrived).
In genealogy, it is just simply amazing how many Americans claim that they
descend from the original Mayflower people....if so, it would have been the
size of the Queen Mary!! But to be honest, the Mayflower did make more than
one trip.
Just some silly trivia on CANADA DAY!!
Cheers.....Heather
> Wonder how your gramma would feel about being a "boat people" also,
> lol...... Well, I assume that her relatives arrived in this country via
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> > miss her like it was yesterday.
> > Lori
Peter Headland - 07 Jul 2005 01:56 GMT
> I guess we are all "boat people"
Not me - I'm a "plane person".

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Radical R P'er - 07 Jul 2005 03:03 GMT
I guess we are all "boat people"
Not me - I'm a "plane person".

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Let's hope you have a nice flight tomorrow and a safe landing. With many
takeoffs and landings in the future..
Owen Lolar