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Article:  Sunlight Lowers Prostate Cancer Risk.

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David S. - 16 Jun 2005 11:37 GMT
According to this we did not sun bathe enough.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20050615/hl_hsn/sunlightlowersprostatecancerrisk
Ken - 16 Jun 2005 17:22 GMT
Then there are those of us who have PCa AND have had at least one
sun-caused pre-cancerous or cancerous growth removed from our skin. The
study that came out about two months ago recommended a 15-minute daily
sun exposure. It concluded there is a correlation between the latitude
at which men lived and the incidence of PCa... which closely resembles
inverse data for skin cancer.

At least 50 years ago, Bosco (a vitamin-fortified chocolate milk
flavoring) advertised it contained "sunshine vitamin D." I don't
understand why, in all this time, has there been no study (that I've
been able to find) to determine just which of the sun's rays are
beneficial to our manufacture of vitamin D. If it's the ultraviolet, we
could just fire-up the old sun lamp for a minute or two. In fact, we
can reproduce most of the sun's rays, and we'd be able to zap ourselves
with whichever one it is, regardless of where we live. I can see it
now... in every 7-11 there would be a "Zappadee" machine. A quarter a
pop. Are you reading this Mr. Science? There's MONEY to be had!! (That
oughta get them started.)
Ed Friedman - 16 Jun 2005 18:28 GMT
> Then there are those of us who have PCa AND have had at least one
> sun-caused pre-cancerous or cancerous growth removed from our skin. The
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> pop. Are you reading this Mr. Science? There's MONEY to be had!! (That
> oughta get them started.)

I've never understood the debate about sunlight and vitamin D.  Yes, too
much sunlight is dangerous.  Yes, too little vitamin D is dangerous.  So
why not stay out of the sun and take vitamin D3 supplements?

Ed Friedman
Steve Kramer - 18 Jun 2005 02:43 GMT
I don't know about studies, but I am informed that the only fur-bearing
animal on this planet that cannot be eaten in its entirety is a polar bear.
You can eat it, but its liver has toxic levels of Vit D.

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PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA  .1  .1  .1  .27  .37  .75
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA  .34 .22 .15 .21 .32
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05
PSA  .07 .05 .06 .05
non Illegitimi carborundum

> Then there are those of us who have PCa AND have had at least one
> sun-caused pre-cancerous or cancerous growth removed from our skin. The
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> pop. Are you reading this Mr. Science? There's MONEY to be had!! (That
> oughta get them started.)
Frank and Rose - 18 Jun 2005 03:42 GMT
Maybe I am the exception to the rule.I had malignant melinoma about
three years before PC.I had lymph removal surgery for the MM and I am
either cured or in remission.That was over 10 years ago. I had radiation
followed by seeding around three years ago and so far have less than .1
PSA.Lucky I guess!
Steve U - 19 Jun 2005 00:51 GMT
Steve Kramer,
I think I read somewhere that the problem with polar bear liver is that
it contains toxic amounts of vitaminA. Sun exposure makes vitaminA
poisoning worse. It was discovered when some explorers got desperate,
ate polar bear liver during the polar 24 hr day. I think they got sick,
sunburned and has visual trouble. Vitamins A,D,E, and K are fat
soluble, and it is possible to overdose on them. Sun exposure can
actually produce Vitamin D in the skin.
Steve U
Steve Kramer - 19 Jun 2005 01:24 GMT
Ha!  You're probably right.  I used to have such a good brain before Lupron.
I wonder if I'll ever get it back.

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PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA  .1  .1  .1  .27  .37  .75
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA  .34 .22 .15 .21 .32
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05
PSA  .07 .05 .06 .05
non Illegitimi carborundum

> Steve Kramer,
> I think I read somewhere that the problem with polar bear liver is that
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> actually produce Vitamin D in the skin.
> Steve U
OCL - 19 Jun 2005 16:19 GMT
The recommended dietary allowance of Vitamin A for a male is 5,000 IU per
day (1,000 µg equivalent).10,000 IU per day is normally used in
supplementation.
A pound of polar bear liver will deliver about 18,000,000 IU to your diet -
a very lethal dose!

> Ha!  You're probably right.  I used to have such a good brain before
> Lupron.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>> actually produce Vitamin D in the skin.
>> Steve U
Steve Kramer - 18 Jun 2005 02:40 GMT
My uro just prescribed 400 IU of Vit D and "get some sun".

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PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA  .1  .1  .1  .27  .37  .75
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA  .34 .22 .15 .21 .32
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05
PSA  .07 .05 .06 .05
non Illegitimi carborundum

> According to this we did not sun bathe enough.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20050615/hl_hsn/sunlightlowersprostatecancerrisk
 
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