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Surgeons/Radiologists in NY area?  Robotic, Radical or LRP?

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Michael Kiely - 14 Jun 2005 05:11 GMT
I am grateful for your thoughtful welcome to the "club."

I would appreciate your suggestions for surgeons (radiologists) in the New
York City area. I'm in Rockland County (west of Westchester).

Or should I be thinking hospitals -- like Sloan Kettering or Columbia?

Does normal RP from the belly allow the surgeon to better determine whether
the cancer has spread outside the prostate? Or can he tell just as well with
Laparoscopic(sp?) or Robotic surgery?  Which of these is currently
preferable?

Michael K
Steve Kramer - 14 Jun 2005 12:45 GMT
> Does normal RP from the belly allow the surgeon to better determine whether
> the cancer has spread outside the prostate? Or can he tell just as well with
> Laparoscopic(sp?) or Robotic surgery?  Which of these is currently
> preferable?

I believe the general consensus is that if there is a problem with falling
cancer cells, that problem is greater with LRP than will RRP.  During RRP,
the intent is to take the prostate out whole (though sometimes it is brittle
and breaks).  The intent of LRP is to cut it up and bring out the pieces.

However, the idea of escaping PCa cells into the cavity being dangerous is
still theoretical at this point.

I had RRP 4½ years ago.  If I had to make the decision today, I'd seriously
consider RLRP.  I really like the idea of the doc being able to see what is
going on at a magnified view and able to make very precise cuts without
having fight fat and organs pushing in from all sides.

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PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA  .1  .1  .1  .27  .37  .75
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA  .34 .22 .15 .21 .32
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05
PSA  .07 .05 .06 .05
non Illegitimi carborundum

judamd@aol.com - 14 Jun 2005 15:52 GMT
> I believe the general consensus is that if there is a problem with falling
> cancer cells, that problem is greater with LRP than will RRP.  During RRP,
> the intent is to take the prostate out whole (though sometimes it is brittle
> and breaks).  The intent of LRP is to cut it up and bring out the pieces.

Not so.  I had LRP two years ago and the prostate was removed intact in
a little sealed plastic bag.  Also, the "magnified view" was the same
as with robot assisted surgery.
Dave Perry
Glenn Enoch - 14 Jun 2005 13:27 GMT
I can't say enough about my surgeon, Dr. James Eastham of Memorial
Sloan-Kettering.  I had tremendous results, and I had little trouble with
side effects afterwards.  A warm and friendly guy.

MSKCC also has a pioneering Laproscopic surgeon (Guillonneau) and I had a
friend who was successfully treated by the head of brachytherapy (Zelefsky).

I also highly recommend their post-surgical "penile rehabilitation" program,
headed by Dr. John Mulhall.  His explanation of how surgery and radiation
affect erectile function is great.

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Age 46 (at surgery)
PSA: 1.4 (12/00), 2.0 (7/02), 10.3 (3/2/04), 6.0 (retest 3/18/04)
Biopsy 4/5/04 cancer in 10% of one core
Gleason 6 (3+3); clinical stage T1c
Bone Scan negative; pre-surgery PSA 2.8
RRP 7/27/2004
Pathological stage T2a, Gleason 6 (3+3)
³Tumor confined to prostate" and "Surgical margins free of tumor²

On 6/14/05 12:11 AM, in article NOsre.75194$NZ1.4619@fe09.lga, "Michael
Kiely" <michael@kiely.us> wrote:

> I am grateful for your thoughtful welcome to the "club."
>
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>
> Michael K
Steve U - 14 Jun 2005 22:40 GMT
Michael K,
I picked robotic because the doctor can see better, and motion control
is easier. The recovery time is very fast. The surgical specimen goes
in a plastic bag, so there is no worry about dropping cancer cells.
Steve U
Gordy - 15 Jun 2005 00:33 GMT
Michael -

If you'd write to me at lg36 at comcast.net, I have some suggestions
for you.

-Gordy
 
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