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Coilman - 13 Jun 2005 12:48 GMT

Please note I am NOT - repeat *NOT* - spamming, trying to sell anything,
trying to say this works or whatever BUT on the TV a short while ago was a
story on Dr. Red http://www.drred.com.au/ where apparently this drink was
sent to labs to be tested by the Cancer Council of Australia in order to
officially test this stuff's efficacy with cancer.

What turned out (for reasons I don't know) is that there were 3 separate
tests done by a clinic for the Australian cancer council mob on this and in
every case it was *SUPPOSED* to be 100% effective in getting rid of the
cancer.

Now please don't howl me down. The above is all I know and I am trying to
find out more - is it crap or is it true? Eg, if it's crap it's one more
bogus story to remember for the future and if it's true, well it's pretty
damned obvious what it means.

So PLEASE can anyone tell me anything about it which they may know? I don't
generally trust TV reports but I am getting to the point where I am going to
have to go see WTF this problem is that I have which is in that area and so
I thought that maybe this is something more I can go armed with if it turns
out OK. Eg, if it works, why bother with anything else? My motto is
basically if it SOUNDS too good to be true, it normally isn't true which is
why I am asking for help in here. Thanks for any help.

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David S. - 13 Jun 2005 13:04 GMT

I would treat this story with a great deal of skepticism. A drink that
kills 100% of the cancer cells sounds just exactly like the crap you see on
tv all the time. I'd believe what my hairdresser told me before I would
believe anything I see on television.

> So PLEASE can anyone tell me anything about it which they may know? I don't
> generally trust TV reports but I am getting to the point where I am going to
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> basically if it SOUNDS too good to be true, it normally isn't true which is
> why I am asking for help in here. Thanks for any help.

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Alan Meyer - 13 Jun 2005 16:57 GMT

The web page looks like BS to me too.

There is some evidence that anti-oxidants do retard the growth of
cancer and do induce cancer cell death. Ditto for anti-inflammatories.
But I don't think that cancer is fundamentally an oxidative or inflammatory
disease and I'd be surprised if anti-oxidant and anti-inflammatory
treatments did much more than slow it down.

I've also grown wary of "in vitro" tests. You can kill 100% of
cancer cells in a Petri dish by pouring sulfuric acid on them. But
that doesn't mean that sulfuric acid is a viable cancer treatment for
humans. We'd like to know more about how the study was done.

That's not to say that this research is BS, just that the exaggerated
claims strike me as being so.

Alan

>I would treat this story with a great deal of skepticism. A drink that
> kills 100% of the cancer cells sounds just exactly like the crap you see on
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> is
>> why I am asking for help in here. Thanks for any help.

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Ernest Gudath - 13 Jun 2005 16:10 GMT

> Please note I am NOT - repeat *NOT* - spamming, trying to sell anything,

I notice a ".au" in coilman's post. I also note that he posts with a dummy
email address. (hahaha@no.way.fool) Could this be the same bludger who has
disrupted and spammed other newsgroups using the screen name Gutbuster? (Hat
tip to Google)

Every now and then somebody busts in here and posts with a breathless "Have
you guys seen this?" The post includes a link to some
www.thisaintreallysnakeoil.com , featuring Dr. Boogeresser's Snake Oil
Emporium and Pandemonium Shadow Show.

In other words, I think it's SPAM. Just sayin'.

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Coilman - 14 Jun 2005 06:32 GMT

>> Please note I am NOT - repeat *NOT* - spamming, trying to sell anything,
>
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> In other words, I think it's SPAM. Just sayin'.

f.cking hell. I go to all that trouble and still people like you come up
with crap.

I am TRYING to find OUT if it is true, whatever anyone knows etc. Sheesh!

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Clarence Crow - 14 Jun 2005 11:42 GMT

>Please note I am NOT - repeat *NOT* - spamming, trying to sell anything,
>trying to say this works or whatever BUT on the TV a short while ago was a
>story on Dr. Red http://www.drred.com.au/ where apparently this drink was
>sent to labs to be tested by the Cancer Council of Australia in order to
>officially test this stuff's efficacy with cancer.

<snip>
I posted the article off the website (just before your post).
Your main respondents are a bunch of Yanks, who wouldn't have seen the
"Breaking" news item on our TV in WestOz.
Before you buy a bottle on-line, remember it's still with the rats.
The Govt may have a look at it on a Trial basis after further testing.

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