Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate Cancer / June 2005
Newbie with early questions
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Tennessee Tony - 05 Jun 2005 05:09 GMT Hi everyone, I tried looking up this info, but got lost with too much information. Here is the deal, I had an MRI done for some problems with my hip, and included in the report was this sentence:
"The prostate appears enlarged measuring 5 cm transversely."
All I found online was something saying it is normally 4 cm, which I have no idea if it is true. If 4 is normal, 5 doesn't sound like much, but then again this is all new to me.
The orthopedic surgeon told me that he doesn't have a clue what size it should be. (at least he is honest)
I guess I'm looking for some kind of direction as far as what steps to take from here.
Thanks, Tony
Stephen Jordan - 05 Jun 2005 06:25 GMT > Hi everyone, I tried looking up this info, but got lost with too much > information. Here is the deal, I had an MRI done for some problems [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I guess I'm looking for some kind of direction as far as what steps to > take from here. Tony did not provide such important details as age, urinary status, general health, but I'll do what I can as a layman.
It could be:
1. Perfectly normal -- for Tony. They come in all sizes; like, er, other parts.
2. Benign prostatic hyperplasia (BHP). It jest growed.
3. An infection.
4. Irritation.
Fifth, and least likely, cancer.
Tony should consult a urologist for further testing to set his mind as ease. Such tests could be, initially, prostate specific antigen (PSA) and digital rectal examination (DRE). Neither test can diagnose cancer, but can give one a "heads-up" that further testing is prudent.
If testing does lead to the diagnosis we here know all too well, Tony should come back with full details of the test results. We'll try to help.
Regards,
Steve J
Dave - 05 Jun 2005 06:30 GMT My enlarged prostate was found during a colonoscopy, be grateful that you may have got a timely warning of soemthing not right.
Next steps DRE, PSA bloodtest and, if indicated, a biopsy. hth.
Dave Dec 03 Age 51, PSA 10.8 Jan 04 Dx PCa T2a Gleason 5 Mar 04 RRP, post op path good, all contained May 04 cystoscopy & BNI now pi**ing like racehorse PSA June < 0.01 PSA Nov < 0.01 PSA Feb < 0.01
> Hi everyone, I tried looking up this info, but got lost with too much > information. Here is the deal, I had an MRI done for some problems with [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Thanks, > Tony c palmer - 05 Jun 2005 09:51 GMT tony didn't give an age. that would help a lot.
~ curtis
knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional "Many more men die with prostate cancer than of it. Growing old is invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so." http://community.webtv.net/PALMER_ENT/doc
Larry - 05 Jun 2005 13:45 GMT Do some research and find a good urologist that specializes in men's problems in your area and get a check-up.
That's all to do now, really. Just make sure you follow-up with a specialist. Until you know more, it's all conjecture.
Larry
> Hi everyone, I tried looking up this info, but got lost with too much > information. Here is the deal, I had an MRI done for some problems with [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Thanks, > Tony Leonard Evens - 05 Jun 2005 14:51 GMT > Hi everyone, I tried looking up this info, but got lost with too much > information. Here is the deal, I had an MRI done for some problems with [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > The orthopedic surgeon told me that he doesn't have a clue what size it > should be. (at least he is honest) Most general practitioners would be able to tell you whther or not this is normal for someone your age. Men's prostates do often enlarge as they age.
Your doctor will also check the prostate for irregularities. If you are over 50, you should probably start PSA testing.
If your doctor thinks it appropriate, you may be referred to a urologist. You could also start off with a urologist initially if you want a more expert opinion than a GP could give you.
> I guess I'm looking for some kind of direction as far as what steps to > take from here. > > Thanks, > Tony Steve Kramer - 05 Jun 2005 15:33 GMT You're jumping to this "newbie" conclusion far too quickly. We are very matter-of-fact about who we let into this club and your qualification are, at best, suspect.
You can be born with an enlarged prostate. If you are older (you don't give your name), you can expect to have an enlarged prostate. If you have an enlarged prostate due to some medical reason, there is no reason to assume it's prostate cancer.
First step, if you're over 35 or 40 and are worried, have your PSA tested. Last time I heard, it's about $60 around here if your insurance doesn't cover it.
Until you know what it is, if anything, we'll let you in on a visitor's pass.
 Signature PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46 Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins PSA .1 .1 .1 .27 .37 .75 EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47 PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05 PSA .07 .05 .06 .05 non Illegitimi carborundum
> Hi everyone, I tried looking up this info, but got lost with too much > information. Here is the deal, I had an MRI done for some problems with [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Thanks, > Tony Tennessee Tony - 05 Jun 2005 15:33 GMT > Hi everyone, I tried looking up this info, but got lost with too much > information. Here is the deal, I had an MRI done for some problems with [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I guess I'm looking for some kind of direction as far as what steps to > take from here. Thanks everyone, I panicked and didn't lurk or read the general rules of the group.
Age 44
No urinary problems except "shy bladder" which is nothing new to me.
General physical health is good except constant pain and fatigue from fibromyalgia, and arthritis is sometimes making walking difficult.
Don't ask about the mental health!
I'll start with a GP for a checkup, alerting him to the prostate comment. I'm sure he will send me to a urologist, but it's been at least 5 years since I had a routine physical anyway so I guess I'm due.
Thanks again, Tony
Stavros Moschos - 05 Jun 2005 16:14 GMT Tony, you've gotten the best advice and comments possible. You are FAR from having to worry about this. But everyone should have a urologist and so should you. The only thing that I would add, based on my own history, is to find one who is reputable. Get a good recommendation. That, to me, is really important.
>> Hi everyone, I tried looking up this info, but got lost with too much >> information. Here is the deal, I had an MRI done for some problems with [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > Thanks again, > Tony Steve Kramer - 05 Jun 2005 21:27 GMT > Thanks everyone, I panicked and didn't lurk or read the general rules of > the group. Nonsense! We all panicked when we were first confronted with the possibility of cancer. This is a great place to amileorate you concerns until you can get more 'professional' information.
> Age 44 This is a great age. Of the 500 or so people that have come to this newgroup since I've been here, less than 20 have been less than 45 years old. Your age is a great indicator that you probably don't have cancer.
> I'll start with a GP for a checkup, alerting him to the prostate > comment. I'm sure he will send me to a urologist, but it's been at > least 5 years since I had a routine physical anyway so I guess I'm due. I doubt he will send you to a uro. He will likely have you get a PSA test. Maybe even a free PSA test. You are getting close to the age where you should have your PSA tested annually.
Please let us know what happens.
Alan Meyer - 06 Jun 2005 03:42 GMT ...
> Thanks everyone, I panicked and didn't lurk or read the general rules of the group. ...
You've probably figured it out by now, but in case you didn't, Steve was making a joke when he said "We are very matter-of-fact about who we let into this club and your qualification are, at best, suspect."
He just meant that, at your tender age, the odds are good that you don't have cancer.
You are, of course, most welcome to post questions here.
Alan
Steve Kramer - 06 Jun 2005 07:13 GMT > ... > > Thanks everyone, I panicked and didn't lurk or read the general rules of the group. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > You are, of course, most welcome to post questions here. Holy cow! I hadn't even picked up on that, Alan. Thanks for setting him straight.
SRK
Clarence Crow - 05 Jun 2005 21:51 GMT >Hi everyone, I tried looking up this info, but got lost with too much >information. Here is the deal, I had an MRI done for some problems with >my hip, and included in the report was this sentence: <snip, info re size of prostate>
>The orthopedic surgeon told me that he doesn't have a clue what size it >should be. (at least he is honest) > >I guess I'm looking for some kind of direction as far as what steps to >take from here. I would hazard a guess that you should be seeing a Urologist about your Prostate, rather than an Orthopaedic Surgeon unless, you had a broken "Boner" :)
PS: I also suffer from information overflow (as well as Urinal. [see my next reply post.])
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Tennessee Tony - 06 Jun 2005 06:22 GMT >>Hi everyone, I tried looking up this info, but got lost with too much >>information. Here is the deal, I had an MRI done for some problems with [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I would hazard a guess that you should be seeing a Urologist about > your Prostate, rather than an Orthopaedic Surgeon Really? I don't believe you! I'm making an appointment with my dermatologist tomorrow!
unless, you had a
> broken "Boner" :) No, my boner isn't broken, just lonely and a little scared.
BTW, is the comic strip "Boners Ark" still around?
> PS: I also suffer from information overflow (as well as Urinal. [see > my next reply post.]) Now I'm scared!
Tony
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