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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate Cancer / May 2005Peaceful death
My uncle in Germany (age 63) died of prostate cancer last night. He had been ill for about 2 years and the cancer was quite advanced when they found it. It had already metastisized to the liver and then spread to the lungs. The good news is that he died a very peaceful death. Apparently his last words were, "you mustn't cry" then he kept gazing at my aunt until he died. No pain, he just "fell asleep". My husband has prostate cancer (age 46, gleason 8, radical prostatectomy and radiation, last psa showed a rise from .18 to .20). I hope whenever his end comes it is as peaceful and painless as that. My condolences on your loss. How unfortunate that two unrelated people in your family suffer from the same disease. Hopefully your husband will live many happy years to come. jimhoney > My uncle in Germany (age 63) died of prostate cancer last night. He > had been ill for about 2 years and the cancer was quite advanced when [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > and radiation, last psa showed a rise from .18 to .20). I hope > whenever his end comes it is as peaceful and painless as that. i'm sorry for the loss of your uncle and i'm glad it was a painless death for him. but i can not share the same experience that i had with my father would also died from prostate cancer. the last two years, my father had deep bone pain that he couldn't get away from. it was always with him regardless of whether he was lying down or sitting upright. most of his life was pain free, except for a hip replacement about 20 years before he died, so for him to be in pain was something to remember. also, i remember very clearly the words he said to me when my mother in law was dx'ed with pancreatic cancer. his comment was, "aw, cancer doesn't hurt!" well, during his final year of life, he looked at me and say, "son, i was wrong, cancer does hurt......" i will also so that they didn't put him on the strongest doses of pain killers either, and that would have made a lot of difference, i'm sure. ~ curtis knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional "Many more men die with prostate cancer than of it. Growing old is invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so." http://community.webtv.net/PALMER_ENT/doc khildebra..., I am sorry for your loss, and I hope your husband does far better. Steve U > i'm sorry for the loss of your uncle and i'm glad it was a painless > death for him. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so." > http://community.webtv.net/PALMER_ENT/doc Curtis, that sounds similar to what happened to my father. He had a pretty pain free life, but towards the end there I could see the cancer was taking it's toll. Same as what you said, the doctors didn't give him the stronger pain meds. When he started taking morphine, it really made a difference. My sympathies on your loss. At least it was a peaceful departure... and he is no longer suffering. Take care! MikeH > My uncle in Germany (age 63) died of prostate cancer last night. He > had been ill for about 2 years and the cancer was quite advanced when [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > and radiation, last psa showed a rise from .18 to .20). I hope > whenever his end comes it is as peaceful and painless as that. My deepest sympathy for you and your loved ones in the loss of your uncle. All my best wishes to you and your husband as he faces the challenge of living with prostate cancer. Fred > My uncle in Germany (age 63) died of prostate cancer last night. He > had been ill for about 2 years and the cancer was quite advanced when [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > and radiation, last psa showed a rise from .18 to .20). I hope > whenever his end comes it is as peaceful and painless as that. I am very sorry to hear of your uncles passing, he was not an old man. Tom > My uncle in Germany (age 63) died of prostate cancer last night. He > had been ill for about 2 years and the cancer was quite advanced when [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > and radiation, last psa showed a rise from .18 to .20). I hope > whenever his end comes it is as peaceful and painless as that. Being in the .2 range isn't very comforting. Getting PCa at 46 and having a Gleason 8 isn't doing him any favors either. You apparently know that already. However, that represents a rise of only 2 / 100ths of a ng. Depending on how long it was between tests, that is slow motion. But, better than all that, modern medicine is coming up with all sorts of products and procedures to stave off death wherein PCa is concerned. And a cure is just around the corner. I don't know how long your husband has been fighting the bastard, but maybe, just maybe, there is hope that you won't have to endure what your aunt did.  SignaturePSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46 Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins PSA .1 .1 .1 .27 .37 .75 EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47 PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05 PSA .07 .05 .06 .05 non Illegitimi carborundum > My uncle in Germany (age 63) died of prostate cancer last night. He > had been ill for about 2 years and the cancer was quite advanced when [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > and radiation, last psa showed a rise from .18 to .20). I hope > whenever his end comes it is as peaceful and painless as that. My condolences to yiou and yours for your loss. I agree with Steve. There's some really exciting stuff just around the corner - stuff that represents a real cure and real prevention for all types of cancer with PCa kleading the pack. I remember when the Salk vaccine was mad epublic. Before that parents and children alike shuddered under the impact of polio. It had become so prevalent that public swimming pools were closed. Today it's effectively non-existent. That's what's gonna happen to cancer very shortly. Keep the faith. Hi Steve - thanks for your kind reply. My husband was actually diagnosed at age 41 with a PSA of 13 so he's been dealing with this for 5 years. He's feeling great right now and is eating healthy and exercising but as you know, waiting for the results of each PSA test is a killer. His is only going up very gradually, however with a Gleason 8 I'm afraid that it will start moving up more quickly at some point. After his Prostatectomy his PSA doubled twice within 18 months. However, there isn't much that can be done beyond living a healthy life and hoping for medical advances. There do seem to be a lot of new developments lately. Thanks again for your response. Is your husband currently on hormone therapy? If not, then I think there is a good chance that he will live for many years to come. To have held his PSA below .20 for 5 years without hormone therapy means that his cancer is very slow growing, in spite of the Gleason 8. If and when it reaches a higher level, HT will almost certainly halt it's growth for a significant period of time. Even if he is on HT, he might still live for many years to come. The HT might continue to work for years and, as Steve and Pops said, there are some very promising treatments starting clinical trials now. I am glad that your uncle's death was peaceful. Cancer can be very painful, or not, depending upon what part of the body it happens to invade. My condolences to you and your family. Alan You and your husband have my most sincere condolences. At 46, I was already fairly well set up for this disease. We had been married 25 years. My children were all adults (or very close to it). I had 29 years on the job and could retire, if needed, with in 1½ years. Now that I am 50, I am in a condo with enough in accounts to pay it off, I can retire today if I want, my kids are all married and, by June, all will be in houses they own, each with grandchild. If God took me now, I could not complain. But, 41? And what were you? 39? Way too early for a disease that robs you of intimacy and then life. SignaturePSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46 Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins PSA .1 .1 .1 .27 .37 .75 EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47 PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05 PSA .07 .05 .06 .05 non Illegitimi carborundum > Hi Steve - thanks for your kind reply. My husband was actually > diagnosed at age 41 with a PSA of 13 so he's been dealing with this for [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > developments lately. > Thanks again for your response. |
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