I have crossposted this in effect but think this title might bring more
attention... I have been reading about this theory and wonder if anyone else
has.
Some quotes and links below:
"Low Testosterone not high testosterone can cause prostate cancer.
Controversial research suggesting that low, rather than high testosterone may
cause prostate cancer was reported over a decade ago by two highly respected
urologists, Wayne Meikle at the University of Utah and Robert Prehn, at the
Cancer Institute. Regardless of these findings and others, the safety of
testosterone is not yet fully accepted. According to Dr. Prehn, testosterone
may protect the prostate by blocking some of the age-related changes, which
promote its increased growth. Dr. Meikle, a well-known researcher in
transdermal testosterone, has found that low testosterone is a risk factor for
prostate cancer in men with a positive family history for the disease."
http://www.sexloveandhormones.com/facts.htm
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"Diet/medication wise I am following the advice of Dr. K. who prescribed a
Progesterone cream that is applied scrotally each night. There is evidence
that Progesterone will interrupt the Testosterone/DHT cycle which in turn will
inhibit the PC growth. The Progesterone approach is equivalent in effect to
the more standard hormone treatment in which Lupron is injected once a month
to reduce the Tostesterone output, but without the side effects. Tosterterone
encourages PC growth"
http://www.evansmonterey.com/pc/ppcc1/ppcc1.html
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"It has been known since the 1940's that severe reductions of testosterone can
cause shrinkage of metastatic prostate cancer, and therefore there has been a
concern that raising testosterone levels might cause growth of any hidden
prostate cancers. However, the study by Ernani L. Rhoden, M.D., and
Morgentaler found no connection between higher testosterone levels and
prostate cancer, nor did they find evidence that testosterone treatment causes
prostate cancer.
In fact, they note that prostate cancer becomes more prevalent exactly at the
time of a man's life when testosterone levels decline. To date, prospective
studies have demonstrated no difference in prostate cancer incidence among
hypogonadal men using testosterone therapy compared to men in the general
population."
http://www.gladiatordiet.com/testosterone_study.htm
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Jan. 15, 2004 -- One of doctors' greatest fears about testosterone therapy is
that it may cause prostate cancer. But a new study shows that it won't
increase a man's risk of prostate cancer -- even if he has precancerous
prostate cells.
http://www.thecompounder.com/TestoNoProstate.html
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Alan Meyer - 02 May 2005 04:56 GMT
>I have crossposted this in effect but think this title might bring more
> attention... I have been reading about this theory and wonder if anyone else
> has.
>
> Some quotes and links below:
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Ly,
Why don't you try writing to some of the doctors who have
done these studies? Maybe you can get an appointment
with one of them, or at least talk to him on the phone. They
may be among the only doctors you'll find who have actual
experience with what you want to do.
I know you've been trying exercise and other things but, as
I said in response to your other posting, you might want to
be very sure you've exhausted every other avenue in dealing
with your problem before trying testosterone therapy.
Finally, in reading the references you cited in your posting,
I didn't see a single one that said anything about giving
testosterone to men who already were confirmed as having
had prostate cancer. One explicitly said that cancer should
be ruled out before beginning testosterone replacement
therapy. I understand your argument that you don't have
cancer any more. You may be right. I hope you are. But
you need to consult with someone more expert than the
authors of the web pages you cited, and more expert than
any of us in this group.
Alan
Ly - 06 May 2005 07:13 GMT
Hi Alan, Thank you for the post... in my other string i show the Doctors
respone to my email after sending him my hormonal profile in great detail.
A Year of wait and watch + Listening to your Hormones
He says no testosterone but recommends progesterone so I am learning
what I can about that now. My cancer is not gone, It showed ever so little
on the biopsy so I know it is there and have to have my regular psa and
digital every 4 months and will biop again soon...not just waiting but keeping
a close eye on things and getting an education on the subject.
A jump in psa, something felt on digital, more showing in a biop and then
I will have to do something..probably LRP.............ly
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Ed Friedman - 02 May 2005 19:05 GMT
> "Low Testosterone not high testosterone can cause prostate cancer.
> Controversial research suggesting that low, rather than high testosterone may
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> http://www.sexloveandhormones.com/facts.htm
Ly,
If you are interested in this sort of literature, you should check out:
British Journal of Urology, 2002(89):710-713
They found that low endogenous levels of testosterone before treatment
started was a more accurate determinant of who was going to die of
prostate cancer than the Gleason score was.
Also, you should check out:
Journal of Urology, 2002(167):2025-2031
They concluded that: "Our study provides evidence to support the
previous hypothesis of other authors that low serum free testosterone
may be a marker for more aggressive prostate cancer"
Also, you should be aware that Dr. Meikle has demonstrated that in the
presence of a strong antioxidant, PDTC, even extremely small quantities
of testosterone are effective in killing prostate cancer cells. See:
Cancer Detection and Prevention, 2002(26):105-113.
Ed Friedman
Ly - 06 May 2005 07:16 GMT
Ed, Thank you for your post and the learning tips. Will check those article
out tomorrow!.......ly
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>Ed Friedman