From: lyman@ruaturtle.com (Ly)
A year ago psa 5.6 and 12 needle biop showed one core 5pct pca Nothing
shows on a digital exam. Two psa since have been 3.8 and the latest 4.2.
I have a digital every 3-4 months. I was taking testosterone and stopped
at the first sign a year ago. I miss it.
Articles found by Abraham Kryger, MD, DMD suggest that testosterone is
not the problem and in fact testosterone may help rid me of this
problem. He has a book called Listening to your Hormones. I have the
audio book verson downloaded from his website.
http://www.sexloveandhormones.com/
Has anyone else read/listened to this?
<<Low Testosterone not high testosterone can cause prostate cancer.
Controversial research suggesting that low, rather than high
testosterone may cause prostate cancer was reported over a decade ago by
two highly respected urologists, Wayne Meikle at the University of Utah
and Robert Prehn, at the Cancer Institute. Regardless of these findings
and others, the safety of testosterone is not yet fully accepted.
According to Dr. Prehn, testosterone may protect the prostate by
blocking some of the age-related changes, which promote its increased
growth. Dr. Meikle, a well-known researcher in transdermal testosterone,
has found that low testosterone is a risk factor for prostate cancer in
men with a positive family history for the disease.>>
http://www.sexloveandhormones.com/facts.htm
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hi ly - the facts are simple.

- you have a confirmed case of prostate cancer for a year.

- you have done nothing about it, but watchful waiting.

- you are contemplating the possibility of taking hormones.

my suggestion is equally as simple......

- address the prostate cancer issue.  each day that goes by is a day
that the cancer gets a better foothold.  the cancer NEVER gives up a
single cell it gets.  you have let the cancer chew on your body for one
year and that means that it has done a lot more damage than if you would
have addressed it at that point.  your chance of cure would have been
better too.  i'm not saying that you can't be cured, but the odds were
better a year ago, and that is a known fact.

- you might be mistaking if you think that i DRE along with the psa
reading is going to give you some idea of how the cancer is doing.  in
my own case, i had confirmed pca in both lobes from a biopsy, and just
hours before i went to surgery, the surgeon did a DRE on me and found no
problems with the prostate knowing i had cancer.   the path report said
the prostate was full of cancer but contained.

this is what you are playing with - a possible case similar to mine.

- if you think that somebody who calls himself a doctor thinks that
taking testosterone and knowing that the patient has prostate
cancer........ well, that's just plain crazy and he should have his
license pulled.  pushing this type of behavior is almost the same as
helping someone kill themselves, and if he is profiting from the act of
doing so, makes them as accessory to the fact.  i don't know how the law
would view this, but it's anything but having the patient's health in
concern.  

this would be like a doctor selling cigarettes to a patient that he
knows has lung cancer and telling him that the cigarettes is going to
get rid of his problem, or selling alcohol drinks to an alcoholic and
telling him that it is going to rid him of being a drunk.......

i wish you the best of luck in whatever road you travel, but those are
my views and i'm sticking to them.....

~ curtis

knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional    
"Many more men die with prostate cancer than of it. Growing old is
invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so."
http://community.webtv.net/PALMER_ENT/doc

How old are you?  Are you watchful waiting?

I strongly recommend that you get your information from a reliable
experience physician rather than trying to figure it out yourself.  A
lay person is in no position to evaluate research claims.   Anyone can
write a book, but it is the peer reviewed scientifica literature that
counts.

Again, as several others have posted, higher testosterone has not been
recommended as a treatment for existing PCa. This article refers only
to possible causes. To treat PCa by increasing testosterone is IMHO
very dangerous.

Sounds like you're trepedatious about taking the next step. My
recommendation: treat (get rid of) the cancer NOW!

I go fo my 3 month post op (LRP) PSA test tomorrow. Am on pins and
needles (fortunately not literally). Then it's whatever next step is
required - hopefully nada (and I'll have a party)

You could be enjoying PCa freedom also!