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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate Cancer / April 2005

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Jules Thomas - 30 Apr 2005 08:27 GMT
I am the editor of a Reflexology magazine and am writing a feature about
using complementary therapies to help cancer patients.  I am not necessarily
suggesting complementary treatment alone, but also working alongside
orthodox medicine.

Does anyone have any feedback or success stories that I could quote in my
feature?

I am particularly interested in hearing from anyone who has used Reflexology
or products such as Essiac Tea, Iscador etc.

Your quote can be anonymous or "Mr J" if preferred.

Many thanks,

Julie
James A Honeychuck - 30 Apr 2005 11:52 GMT
The apostle of this sort of thing was Martin Howard of Braintree in
Essex.  Search this group's archive in Google Groups.

I don't know the etiquette of quoting posts written by people who are
now deceased.

jimhoney

> I am the editor of a Reflexology magazine and am writing a feature about
> using complementary therapies to help cancer patients.  I am not necessarily
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>
> Julie
Steve Kramer - 30 Apr 2005 17:55 GMT
Subtle

> The apostle of this sort of thing was Martin Howard of Braintree in
> Essex.  Search this group's archive in Google Groups.
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> >
> > Julie
Alan Meyer - 30 Apr 2005 20:43 GMT
>I am the editor of a Reflexology magazine and am writing a feature about
> using complementary therapies to help cancer patients.  I am not necessarily
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>
> Julie

Julie,

I hope you will NOT publish any quote given to you anonymously.

Any idiot can make up any story and send it to you as Mr. J.
Unless you can confirm the truth of the story, it is irresponsible
and unethical of you to publish it.

One of the biggest problems of the "alternative medicine" community
is that an unscrupulous person will make up a ridiculous lie and
feed it to some gullible (or equally unscrupulous) person who
publishes it.  Others quote the first publication, and before you
know it, the lie becomes "common knowledge" believed by
everyone and taken for granted as true because, after all,
it was published - possibly in multiple publications!

But even if you can verify them, anecdotes are a poor guide to
understanding.

I suspect that there are people who have been treated for prostate
cancer who have undergone reflexology and drunk essiac tea.  If
so, I bet that some of them conquered their cancer and some died
of it.  Unless you have a properly designed study to determine
if the reflexology or the tea made any difference, the anecdotes
are absolutely worthless.  Worse, if you only publish the positive
anecdotes (and none of the dead people will send you theirs), you'll
give a dangerously false impression to your readers.

If you disagree with my arguments here, I hope you will write
back in this newsgroup and explain why.  There are some scientists
and mathematicians in the group (cancer can hit anyone), who
can help you to clarify this issue.

Instead of publishing anonymous anecdotes, perhaps your
magazine could help fund a reputable hospital or medical school
to conduct a real, properly designed, clinical trial.  It would be
a great service to your readers and practitioners - whether it
showed that reflexology and essiac tea help, hurt, or does nothing
for cancer.

   Alan
Stephen Jordan - 30 Apr 2005 22:21 GMT
On 2005-04-30 12:43:35 -0700, "Alan Meyer" <ameyer2@yahoo.com>
responded in pertinent part to "Jules Thomas:"

> I hope you will NOT publish any quote given to you anonymously.
>
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> everyone and taken for granted as true because, after all,
> it was published - possibly in multiple publications!

Which caused my junkyard-mind to produce the following:

"Think what tedious years of study, thought, practice, experience went
to the equipment of that peerless old master who was able to impose
upon the whole world the lofty and sounding maxim that 'truth is mighty
and will prevail' -- the most majestic compound fracture of fact which
any of woman born has yet achieved. For the history of our race and
each individual's experience are sown thick with evidence that a truth
is not hard to kill, and a lie told well is immortal."
-- Mark Twain, "Advice to Youth"

(ka-snip)

Regards,

Steve J

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