peter*pan@neverland.com (peter*pan)

wrote:

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I have probably done 1000s of kegels. Have tried different variations on
technique (where do you really squeeze!?!), frequency, intensity, etc.
And I will keep doing them. But since I have been doing them for almost
2 years, and the evening leakage has only slowed recently, I don't know
that the kegels help there. My uro thinks that kegels help with the
stress incontinence, but that healing is responsible for the rest. If
all it took were kegels, I would have been dry a long time ago.

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About Kegels you asked:

"Where do you really squeeze?"

I understand.

As good as the descriptions are...I find myself wondering if I'm using
the 'right' muscles instead of the 'wrong' ones. (abdomen, thighs,
buttocks.)

I know about stopping the flow of urine while urinating (the 'right'
muscles) but when they say "now IMAGINE that you are urinating and
squeeze the same muscles"...
THAT's whee I begin to wonder.

There is a technique that I've read about (haven't tried yet) where you
slip a latex gloved finger (I'd guess the pinky  :-) in the rectum and
squeeze.

Doing the proper Kegel...you will feel the finger being squeezed so
you'll know for SURE.

Did anybody try this?

I'm almost 5 weeks post-op (regular RRP) and I leak when getting out of
bed and up and down from sitting.

4 or 5 depends a day.

I feel pretty good otherwise.

Take care,

Ron B.

Chicago