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Peter - 10 Apr 2005 03:19 GMT
Been 16 days since I had my RP surgery.  Off the catheter and not feeling
too bad but my problem is that ever since surgery I have not had a 'normal'
bowel movement.  I don't have to go all of a sudden or whatever but each
bowel movement is extremely loose stools.  I was wondering if anyone else
has had this problem following their surgery?  Thanks.
anontoall@yahoo.com - 10 Apr 2005 04:34 GMT
> Been 16 days since I had my RP surgery.  Off the catheter and not feeling
> too bad but my problem is that ever since surgery I have not had a 'normal'
> bowel movement.  I don't have to go all of a sudden or whatever but each
> bowel movement is extremely loose stools.  I was wondering if anyone else
> has had this problem following their surgery?  Thanks.

I believe this is normal -- takes a while for things to get back to
normal. I had the same experience. Remember the surgery beat the crap
out of your body and also involved moving your intestines out of the
way during the surgery. Give it time. BUT also talk to/ask your doc!
Reuben Rothstein - 10 Apr 2005 06:35 GMT
Yes - this is normal and will take about 21 days for surgery
to come back to what it used to be

Reuben

>> Been 16 days since I had my RP surgery.  Off the catheter and not
>feeling
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>out of your body and also involved moving your intestines out of the
>way during the surgery. Give it time. BUT also talk to/ask your doc!
Steve Kramer - 10 Apr 2005 12:14 GMT
Major surgery is a shock to your system, especially when you've eliminated
everything in your system the night before.  Also, if you are still taking
any drugs, they might have an effect.

However, if they are loose, count that as a blessing.  Pushing can me a
little uncomfortable in the first few weeks.
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> Been 16 days since I had my RP surgery.  Off the catheter and not feeling
> too bad but my problem is that ever since surgery I have not had a 'normal'
> bowel movement.  I don't have to go all of a sudden or whatever but each
> bowel movement is extremely loose stools.  I was wondering if anyone else
> has had this problem following their surgery?  Thanks.
Howard and Hope - 10 Apr 2005 15:19 GMT
Keep it soft...you are better off..My surgery was Feb 1st and I sill
hurt a bit...been on stool sofners since then..Howie
Glassman - 15 Apr 2005 04:57 GMT
> Been 16 days since I had my RP surgery.  Off the catheter and not feeling
> too bad but my problem is that ever since surgery I have not had a 'normal'
> bowel movement.  I don't have to go all of a sudden or whatever but each
> bowel movement is extremely loose stools.  I was wondering if anyone else
> has had this problem following their surgery?  Thanks.

    Trust me loose is 100 times better than the cement that most of us had
using the pain killers.

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Reuben Rothstein - 15 Apr 2005 08:12 GMT
Yes - same here and thank God for the loose stools

Reuben

>> Been 16 days since I had my RP surgery.  Off the catheter and not feeling
>> too bad but my problem is that ever since surgery I have not had a
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>     Trust me loose is 100 times better than the cement that most of us had
>using the pain killers.
Ken - 15 Apr 2005 16:43 GMT
I'll second, third or fourth the "you're lucky" response! Without a
doubt, the most painful part of my whole RP experience (by a long shot)
was getting that first load of "cement" out of me. I don't know if it
was pain killers that created the problem, or the stool softeners I was
told to take. I got only two pain-killer shots while in the hospital,
and took just a couple tablets when I got back home. Maybe that's all
it takes.

I was told to fast for 12 hours prior to surgery. Post-surgery, it was
"eat anything you want." What was your diet recommendation? I would
like to pass it on to others who are pre-op.

Until reading this thread here, I didn't know anyone else had
experienced the same thing. My doctor never mentioned it.
I. P. Freely - 15 Apr 2005 18:33 GMT
My docs, med lit, magazines, and experience said: narcotics constipate.
My colon surgeon prescribed a low-residue (low-fiber) diet. I had to argue
with him quite a bit to show him that a low-residue diet is a constipating
diet, at which time he said, "You apparently know your system well. Eat what
works for you."
I've always been prone to constipation anyway. To prevent it, I do what we
should all do all the time: eat lots of fiber.

Based on all six of those factors, I:
1. Took about one stool softener a day while on narcotics (morphine,
coedine, oxy-stuff, hydro-stuff, etc.) just to be sure.
2. Drank plenty of prune juice. (Can you believe I had to ORDER it from the
hospital kitchen!!? They'd rather feed us CHEMICAL stool softeners than
nature's own dual-action stool softener and motility enhancer.)
3. Ate more fiber than the hospital diet provided and didn't eat the grease
(sat fats); that's unhealthy anytime in any quantity, and very tough for a
traumatized colon to handle. Whole grains, fruit, and vegetables (careful
with beans; that traumatized rectal wall doesn't need gas pressure), in
moderate quantity (who's eating big meals post-op anyway?)
4. Drank fluids constantly.

Result: What constipation?

I.P.

> I'll second, third or fourth the "you're lucky" response! Without a
> doubt, the most painful part of my whole RP experience (by a long shot)
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Until reading this thread here, I didn't know anyone else had
> experienced the same thing. My doctor never mentioned it.
Steve Kramer - 16 Apr 2005 01:49 GMT
I had hard stools and soft stools.  I just remember that pushing to get them
out was more painful and less painful depending on the softness.

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PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA  .1  .1  .1  .27  .37  .75
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA  .34 .22 .15 .21 .32
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05
PSA  .07 .05 .06 .05
non Illegitimi carborundum

> I'll second, third or fourth the "you're lucky" response! Without a
> doubt, the most painful part of my whole RP experience (by a long shot)
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Until reading this thread here, I didn't know anyone else had
> experienced the same thing. My doctor never mentioned it.
Steve Kramer - 16 Apr 2005 01:51 GMT
Oops!  Also meant to say, "Welcome, Ken!"  I haven't seen you post (I
think).

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PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA  .1  .1  .1  .27  .37  .75
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA  .34 .22 .15 .21 .32
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05
PSA  .07 .05 .06 .05
non Illegitimi carborundum

> I'll second, third or fourth the "you're lucky" response! Without a
> doubt, the most painful part of my whole RP experience (by a long shot)
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Until reading this thread here, I didn't know anyone else had
> experienced the same thing. My doctor never mentioned it.
Glassman - 16 Apr 2005 03:22 GMT
The best stool softener for me was fresh raisins & prunes.

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