I.P.

Having read a number of your posts I think it fair to say you and I
have different philosophies when it comes to evaluating and deciding on
PCa treatment regimens.  Nothing wrong with different philosophies, may
be a good thing.  I do think we both agree there is no silver bullet,
no magic potion that will eliminate every PCa cell wandering around in
our bodies. Current treatments may not yet be proven be extend life.

BUT, In my case I have a high grade aggressive form of PCa with a fair
chance that there may be micro metastatic disease.  My attitude is to
accept the fact that no treatment is best, no treatment is perfect and
all treatments will have side effects - some serious.  I have no
interest in waiting around till hell freeezes over just because there
are unknowns.  While I do some of the following I don't I have much
time to sit on my a.s reading, studying, evaluating, contemplating,
considering, wondering, thinking and then point my cynical middle
finger at all the details.

You said: "My academic researcher / med school professor / urologist /
surgeon /
oncologist, the med school staff he consults weekly, and my months of
literature research all reached the same conclusion: no foods or
supplements
have yet been proven by formal trials to cause, prevent, cure, or
impair the
spread of PC."

Okay, lets accept that.  The difference betwen you and me is that I'm
willing to accept that and forge ahead anyway, roll the dice that just
maybe one or some combination of these will, at some time, prove to be
helpful and by that time I may ahead of the treatment curve.

I have opted for ADT3, Chemotherapy and IMRT. You can make a valid
point that none of these have been proven to extend life.  Granted -
but to me that is not a reason not to at least try to see if they may
be effective in my case.  No doctor ever told me these treatments will
cure my PCa.  None has ever told me they will extend my life.  I was
willing to do this just from the pure hope that MAYBE they will help.

If sometime down the road one or some combination of these treatment
regimens proves to be effective in extending life I would be plenty
pissed if I had left undone those things I ought to have done.  I'm
willing to accept the risks involved and endure the side effects.  I
feel good that I am fighting like hell with most everything available
to fight off this disease.  Frankly, I.P., I don't give a damn that I
don't fully understand everything about what the treatment regimens may
prove to be - or not be.

Regarding my list of supplements, you said:  "Several of this list also
has problems, such as Vit E's deleterious effect on heart disease."

Well, many things we do every day could have problems.  Riding in a car
could have problems, walking down the street could have problems,
riding in an airplane could have problems.  I do it anyway.  Life is a
risk.

As to your comment:  "such as Vit E's deleterius effect on heart
disease".  Do you know that as a fact?  Has that been proven beyond
question?  No, it has not.  There are numerous studies that indicate
positive advantages of moderate intake of Vitamin E.  Whose to say what
is right and whatt is wrong? Not you and not me.

The apparent difference between you and me is that, at least in my
opinion, you seem not want to do someting because it has not been
proven to be effective.  You want proof.  That's fine - clearly your
option.  As for me I'm willing to take on some amount of risk not
knowing everything there is to know about everything and do so just on
pure hope that it may extend my life.  That's fine - clearly my option.

Your posts do raise awareness, do point out risks, do accent the
uncertainty of PCa treatments.  Fine. Personally I think you come
across somewhat negative, somewhat cynical.  Perhaps I come across as
uninformed, naive.

I guess it's just a matter of, as is said "different strokes for
different folks"

Harold

As they say, I.P.