On February 16, I.P. Freely quoted part of my last:
>>Twelve months of steadily low PSA is considered to be the criterion for
>>IADT.
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>>Can anyone brief us on his experience with Trelstar?
He replied:
> I can't help with the Trelstar, but . . .
>
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> an early warning system. IOW, if the hairs line up like ducks, they may be
> usable ducks.
(ka-snip)
Makes sense. We just should bear in mind that, at such low levels, we
are dealing with hairs in the nanogram per hundredths of a milliliter range.
(ka-snip)
> Tests are under way for IADT periods between 9 and
> 28 months. Maybe some of those tests are completed, providing your 12-month
> criteria?
Dunno either. The twelve-month criterion is that of Scholz and his
former partner, Strum. AIUI, during the "on period" PSA is monitored to
the point where it reaches a predetermined nadir. The patient then
begins his "off period" pending a rise in PSA to a predetermined level.
The idea is to extend the time to PSA failure (when on ADT).
> It's not clear to me how a different LHRH (ADT1) drug would help wsith the
> SEs, since the SEs are primarily due to the testosterone deprivation, not
> the drugs used to achieve it.
Correct. Checking the SE's of Trelstar vs. those of Lupron leads me to
the conclusion that they are essentially the same.
> I gather the usual bone-preserving/restoring drugs and other measures
are not
> working for you?
Sorry if I gave the wrong impression. I have only been on Actonel +
calcium + Vitamin D for ~five weeks, far too short a time to see any
measurable effect. That's why I'll wait until May before doing the
Pyrilinks-D urine test to see how it's going.
(su-nip)
Regards,
Steve J
Stephen Jordan - 16 Feb 2005 19:11 GMT
Correction:
I wrote:
> (ka-snip)
> .....we are dealing with hairs in the nanogram per hundredths of a
> milliliter range.
Argh. Dunno where my head was -- quiet, IP! -- but I should have written
"nanograms per milliliter."
Regards,
Steve J
:-(
I.P. Freely - 16 Feb 2005 19:38 GMT
I KNOW where my head's been the past few years, and that's BEFORE any PC
treatments. I swear I'm going to have to start injecting Beano and/or
Lactaid into my brain.
I.P.
"Stephen Jordan" <mycroftscj@earthlink.net> wrote > >
> Argh. Dunno where my head was -- quiet, IP! -- but I should have written
> "nanograms per milliliter."