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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate Cancer / February 2005Friend suffering from rash
Hello my fellow newsgroupers.(and ladies) Recently my friend had RP and he is now having serious rash issues do to wearing the mens diaper, and burns on his legs. He is doing a lot of differing things to help and wonder if there is a magic answer to the problem. Thanks John Loomis > Hello my fellow newsgroupers.(and ladies) > Recently my friend had RP and he is now having serious rash issues do to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Thanks > John Loomis Why bother with full diapers? After my surgery, I used Men's Depends Pads - I inserted them into my underwear. In any event, we always used a zinc oxide based cream, such as Balmex, when our children had developed diaper rash. It worked great!! Sandy K. > "John Loomis" <jloomis@mcn.org> wrote > my friend had RP and he is now having serious rash issues do > to wearing the mens diaper, and burns on his legs. > He is doing a lot of differing things to help and wonder if there is a > magic answer to the problem. I'd want to know what was in my urine that caused the burns. Sounds like time for a simple lab test, and maybe a simple diet change or medication to correct a PH issue. I've been surprised that I've gotten zero irritation from the ever-wet cat in my pants, even if I don't get around to showering every day. I.P. hi john - nobody has mention cranberry juice. along with keeping the area clean, zinc oxide and bag balm as well as utter cream, i think the cranberry juice would change the ph enough to help with everything too. ~ curtis knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional "Many more men die with prostate cancer than of it. Growing old is invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so." http://community.webtv.net/PALMER_ENT/doc Sorry, Curtis......but cranberry juice has been proven to be ineffective for bladder problems. Just another old wive's tale. And you say "utter" cream?? Shouldn't that be "udder" as in cows? What will work is a cream containing 1% cortisone. I have a lot of allergies and rash reactions to various things and I use that. But it is a prescription cream. I have seen OTC cortisone cream at the pharmacy tho. Heather > hi john - nobody has mention cranberry juice. along with keeping the > area clean, zinc oxide and bag balm as well as utter cream, i think the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so." > http://community.webtv.net/PALMER_ENT/doc Literally hundreds of university, medical, and hospital web sites say cranberry juice, and the more the better, is quite effective for bladder problems. Some come right out and say it: "That old wives' tale is true; cranberry juice really is/does . . . " What's your source? I.P. > cranberry juice has been proven to be ineffective for > bladder problems. Just another old wive's tale. > Literally hundreds of university, medical, and hospital web sites say > cranberry juice, and the more the better, is quite effective for bladder > problems. Some come right out and say it: "That old wives' tale is true; > cranberry juice really is/does . . . " > > What's your source? First source is personal use, as in *it didn't work*. Not to mention that I was allergic to it, as I found out with a mega rash. My gynaecologist and family doctor both said I might as well drink apple juice or water. That any liquid in large quantities will flush the bacteria out just as well. And don't think I am pooh-poohing home remedies.....I grew up using them. My father (doctor) believed in a lot of the old remedies and we rarely saw a family doctor unless it was necessary. A bladder infection can be very dangerous, so antibiotics are often the only cure. Heather > I.P. > > > cranberry juice has been proven to be ineffective for > > bladder problems. Just another old wive's tale. So the vote is in. Heather: a couple of votes against cranberry juice based on an allergy and two doctors. Medical world: hundreds, maybe thousands, of professional researchers, hospitals, and universities for cranberry juice, citing many clinical trials and explaining cause and effect. Watch your sources, folks. I.P. > > Literally hundreds of university, medical, and hospital web sites say > > cranberry juice, and the more the better, is quite effective for bladder [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > > cranberry juice has been proven to be ineffective for > > > bladder problems. Just another old wive's tale. Your childish sarcasm is to be expected. As is your constant ranting on side effects that you have NOT experienced. Oh....add a radiation oncologist and a medical oncologist to those that don't think it works. I haven't bothered to ask every medical person I know......simply because I know it is not all that effective, nor is it all that important in the scheme of things. So rant on, little man......I will be ignoring you. HF > So the vote is in. > Heather: a couple of votes against cranberry juice based on an allergy and [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > > > cranberry juice has been proven to be ineffective for > > > > bladder problems. Just another old wive's tale. For those of you who DO care about SEs -- which should include every one in this club -- don't rely on anecdotal examples of SE discussions, or any significant medical decisions for that matter. Get your data from the PC books, trials, hospitals, universities, etc. (When I add additional data from individual doctors who treat psychological SEs, I state its source clearly.) Be aware of contradictions, and try to reconcile them; closer examination often clears up an apparent conflict. Do with it what you wish, whether it's about SEs, cranberry juice, or a PC treatment. Cranberry juice is the friend of just about anyone with urinary tract bacterial risks, including UTIs, catheters, anastomoses, etc. -- unless, of course, they're allergic to it, or it burns a hole in their car seats, or it bursts into flames upon contact with their lips, or it is sold on street corners in bleach jugs with "KRANBERI JOOS" written on the side in magic marker. But don't rely on it alone; Heather was right in warning up how critical and stubborn UTIs often are. They can linger for years, flare into extreme scenarios, and do some serious, permanent, pathological harm if not truly eradicated. MANY doctors and medical treatments (and ESPECIALLY the OTC pills commonly sold to treat UTIs!) merely suppress the symptoms. My warning stands: be very careful about basing ANY decisions on anecdotal stories, particularly from bearers who don't understand the distinction between sarcasm and facts, or between anecdotes and large bodies of evidence. And for GOODNESS' sake, don't base any decisions on anything I post. If what I post interests you and looks relevant, go to the sources for verification before acting on it. I.P. > Your childish sarcasm is to be expected. As is your constant ranting on > side effects that you have NOT experienced. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > > > Watch your sources, folks. "Sandy K." <skaston@NOSPAMsemorex.com> wrote > > Why bother with full diapers? After my surgery, I used Men's Depends Pads - > I inserted them into my underwear. > Why bother with full diapers? After my surgery, I used Men's Depends Pads - > I inserted them into my underwear. I fill a Depends pad in 20-30 minutes on my feet. Then I discard that from inside my high-absorbency full diaper and hope I don't overflow the diaper if I must spend another hour or three on my feet (with potty breaks). A lengthy trip to Home Depot and I've saturated, maybe gone through, both pad and diaper. Doing anything physical, such as yard work, I'll go right through a big diaper in an hour. That's why I bother with diapers. I'd be literally standing in puddles without them. Winter seems to be almost over with here, so real soon I give up this business of sitting much of the day to stay dry and get on with my outdoor projects, where puddles don't matter. Piss on it! I'm not gonna let wet pants keep me on my butt any more than I'm gonna let HT destroy my QOL. I.P. On February 3, Sandy K. replied to John Loomis: > Why bother with full diapers? After my surgery, I used Men's Depends Pads - > I inserted them into my underwear. In any event, we always used a zinc > oxide based cream, such as Balmex, when our children had developed diaper > rash. It worked great!! An alternative, received as a sample from the rad onc when I developed a bit of a rash, is Aquaphor. It was very effective. Dunno the price, as it was a freebie. Regards, Steve J __ "Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in." -- Mark Twain > Hello my fellow newsgroupers.(and ladies) > Recently my friend had RP and he is now having serious rash issues do to > wearing the mens diaper, and burns on his legs. > He is doing a lot of differing things to help and wonder if there is a > magic answer to the problem. Bag balm. Skiers use it for chapped legs or cheeks, cyclers use it for chapped legs, I've seen it mentioned on the cancer newsgroup for "diaper rash" (some mothers use it for babies so I assume it's safe for topical/external use). Rectal cancer patients have used it, urinary cancer patients have used it. It's a veterinary product so if your local vet services both pets and farm animals, might have it. Otherwise just recently mentioned on the cancer NG, that it can be found at animal feed stores, "some people use it on baby butts with no ill effects--aside from the smell and greasy consistency. You might find it in the pet section of Wal-Mart." I think in some places in Canada, even drug stores may have it. I'd trust the vet supply, if there's different manufacturers. Pass it around, if it works. (I don't know what it smells like, so maybe try buying a small amount first, in case the smell bothers..) It's also used for dry cracked feet or hands.(oddly enough) J Women who knit use it too. I get it at the local animal feed store under the name "Utter Balm" (farmers use it I guess). There you get three times as much at less than half the price that you would see elsewhere. I like it because it pretty quickly absorbes in the skin. I work at a computer all day, so who needs greasy keys. It does have a mild odor though, which I do not mind. > > Hello my fellow newsgroupers.(and ladies) > > Recently my friend had RP and he is now having serious rash issues do to [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > It's also used for dry cracked feet or hands.(oddly enough) > J Sorry, Heather is right, it is "udder" not "utter". Not up on my farm animals. > Women who knit use it too. I get it at the local animal feed store under > the name "Utter Balm" (farmers use it I guess). There you get three times [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > It's also used for dry cracked feet or hands.(oddly enough) > > J Is utter cream lip balm aka Chapstick??? LOL Bev > Sorry, Heather is right, it is "udder" not "utter". Not up on my farm > animals. [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > > It's also used for dry cracked feet or hands.(oddly enough) > > > J I had diaper rash with the Depends underwear so fairly quickly switched to the Depends Guards. They are only one notch down from the underwear in terms of absorbancy (look on the package for the scale) and they have always worked fine for me. I especially liked not having to take my pants off when changing at work. > Hello my fellow newsgroupers.(and ladies) > Recently my friend had RP and he is now having serious rash issues do to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Thanks > John Loomis |
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