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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate Cancer / January 2005Pfizer spam
Pfizer seems to have harvested e-mail addresses from this group. Or am I the only one who got this one? I don't know why they're talking to me, I've never had anything to say about ED. jimhoney Received: from smtpout01-03.mesa1.secureserver.net ([64.202.165.78]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmxc15) with SMTP id <2005012321434601500ss0b6e>; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:43:46 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [64.202.165.78] Received: (qmail 30313 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2005 21:43:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO webmail03.mesa1.secureserver.net) (64.202.166.82) by smtpout01-03.mesa1.secureserver.net with SMTP; 23 Jan 2005 21:43:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 27430 invoked by uid 99); 23 Jan 2005 21:43:42 -0000 Message-ID: <20050123214342.27429.qmail@webmail03.mesa1.secureserver.net> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:43:42 -0700 From: edteam@pfizerexpertconsumersforum.com Subject: Message to alt.support.cancer.prostate user To: jimhoney@worldnet.att.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII-------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- From: edteam@pfizerexpertconsumersforum.com To: jimhoney@worldnet.att.net Subject: Message to alt.support.cancer.prostate user Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:43:46 +0000 Dear Jim, BioScience Communications is working together with Pfizer Inc, the makers of VIAGRA® (sildenafil citrate), to help people and doctors learn more about erectile dysfunction (ED). We have a new information only program in which we are reaching out to some of the most engaged talkers about erectile dysfunction online and inviting them to join our VIAGRA® (sildenafil citrate) Expert Consumers Forum. It is a password protected site that will contain useful information on ED, and new developments in research. We would like to invite you to become a member. If you are interested just let us know and we will forward you a user name and password. Also, if there is anyone else you think would be interested, please feel free to forward the message below. Thank you for your time and interest. Sincerely, ED TEAM _____________________________________________________________________ We are BiosScience Communications, a medical education and communications company, working together with Pfizer, the makers of VIAGRA® (sildenafil citrate) to help patients and doctors learn about ED treatments. Please forgive the intrusion, but we have been researching online information about VIAGRA® (sildenafil citrate) and recognize that discussion forums can be a great patient-to-patient education resource. Our team is impressed with the information and conversations that take place here. We work closely with Pfizer's ED experts – health care professionals and consumers – and we would like to invite you to join our VIAGRA® (sildenafil citrate) Expert Consumers Forum. This is not an advertisement but an invitation to explore information in our forum. The VIAGRA® (sildenafil citrate) Expert Consumers Forum is an exclusive new resource for people like you, influencers who share high-quality comments and provide emotional support. Please let us know if you would be interested in learning more about our expert consumers forum and having access to ED information only available from Pfizer Inc. Sign up now by replying to this email at EDteam@pfizerexpertconsumersforum.com to set up your username and password. We look forward to hearing from you. Sincerely, BioScience ED Team The health information contained herein is provided for educational purposes only and is not intended to replace discussions with a healthcare provider. The products discussed herein may have different product labeling in different countries. All decisions regarding patient care must be made with a healthcare provider, considering the unique characteristics of the patient. VIAGRA® (sildenafil citrate) is a medicine used to treat erectile dysfunction (ED). The use of VIAGRA ® (sildenafil citrate) and organic nitrates in any form, at any time, is contraindicated. Before treating ED, physicians should consider the impact of resuming sexual activity and the mild and transient vasodilatory effects of VIAGRA® (sildenafil citrate) on blood pressure. Physicians should carefully consider whether patients with underlying cardiovascular disease or other more unusual conditions could be adversely affected by vasodilatory effects, especially in combination with sexual activity. Patients with the following characteristics (recent serious cardiovascular events, hypotension or uncontrolled hypertension, or retinitis pigmentosa) did not participate in pre-approval clinical trials. In these patients, physicians should prescribe VIAGRA® (sildenafil citrate) with caution. In a controlled interaction study of VIAGRA® (sildenafil citrate) and amlodipine, the mean additional reduction in supine blood pressure was 8 mm Hg systolic and 7 mm Hg diastolic. When the alpha blocker doxazosin (4 mg) and VIAGRA® (sildenafil citrate) (25mg) were administered simultaneously to patients with BPH, mean additional reductions of supine blood pressure of 7 mm Hg systolic and 7 mm Hg diastolic were observed. When higher doses of VIAGRA® (sildenafil citrate) and doxazosin (4 mg) were administered simultaneously, there were infrequent reports of patients who experienced symptomatic postural hypotension within 1 to 4 hours of dosing. Doses of 50 mg or 100 mg of VIAGRA® (sildenafil citrate) not be taken within 4 hours of alpha-blocker administration. A 25 mg dose of VIAGRA® (sildenafil citrate) may be taken at any time. The most common side effects of VIAGRA® (sildenafil citrate) were headache (16%), flushing (10%), and dyspepsia (7%). Adverse events, including visual effects (3%), were generally transient and mild to moderate. As there have been infrequent reports of prolonged erections lasting more than 4 hours or priapism, patients should be advised to seek immediate medical attention should these occur. Use of VIAGRA® (sildenafil citrate) offers no protection against sexually transmitted diseases, including the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV); therefore, physicians should consider counseling their patients about protective measures. Use a starting dose of 25 mg for a patient who may have increased plasma levels (age>65, hepatic impairment, severe renal impairment, and concomitant use of potent CYP450 3A4 inhibitors). Patients taking ritonavir should not exceed 25 mg in a 48-hour period. Please see full prescribing information for VIAGRA® (sildenafil citrate) (25-mg, 50-mg, 100-mg) tablets. Brought to you by Pfizer http://www.pfizer.com/copyrightfrm.html http://www.pfizer.com/privacyfrm.htm http://www.viagramd.com/general/contactUs.asp http://www.viagramd.com/general/siteMap.asp This information is intended for residents of the United States. The blue diamond tablet shape is a registered trademark of Pfizer Inc. hi jim - i got one too ~ curtis knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional "Many more men die with prostate cancer than of it. Growing old is invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so." http://community.webtv.net/PALMER_ENT/doc Me too Tom > hi jim - i got one too > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so." > http://community.webtv.net/PALMER_ENT/doc I get hundreds a week. I have a spam blocker sitting in a box next to me, but haven't installed it yet. It's just become a habit. Mark... Bound.... Delete.  SignatureProstate Cancer Survivor (so far), not a doctor PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46 Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3bN0M0 PSA .1 .1 .1 .27 .37 .75 EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47 PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 Lupron (1 mo) 07/21/2003 @ 48 PSA .07 .05 .06 Lupron (4 mo) 8/03 (48), 12/03, 4/04 (49), 09/04 (50) non Illegitimi carborundum > Pfizer seems to have harvested e-mail addresses from this group. Or am > I the only one who got this one? [quoted text clipped - 151 lines] > This information is intended for residents of the United States. The > blue diamond tablet shape is a registered trademark of Pfizer Inc. > Pfizer seems to have harvested e-mail addresses from this group. Or am > I the only one who got this one? [quoted text clipped - 156 lines] > This information is intended for residents of the United States. The > blue diamond tablet shape is a registered trademark of Pfizer Inc. I got it also. I'm bothered far less by spam that by having to scroll through pages of unsnipped quotes, looking closely at the nunber of ">>>s" to see when it changes from quotes to real life, to get to a "Me, too". Not picking on Leonard, but, please, folks . . . a little consideration, if you want yer stuff read. BTW . . . the rest of my message is bottom posted below. > > Pfizer seems to have harvested e-mail addresses from this group. Or am > > I the only one who got this one? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > id <2005012321434601500ss0b6e>; Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:43:46 +0000 > > X-Originating-IP: [64.202.165.78] > > Received: (qmail 30313 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2005 21:43:42 -0000 > > Received: from unknown (HELO webmail03.mesa1.secureserver.net) > > (64.202.166.82) > > by smtpout01-03.mesa1.secureserver.net with SMTP; 23 Jan 2005 21:43:42 > > -0000 > > Received: (qmail 27430 invoked by uid 99); 23 Jan 2005 21:43:42 -0000 > > Message-ID: <20050123214342.27429.qmail@webmail03.mesa1.secureserver.net> > > Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:43:42 -0700 > > From: edteam@pfizerexpertconsumersforum.com > > Subject: Message to alt.support.cancer.prostate user > > To: jimhoney@worldnet.att.net > > MIME-Version: 1.0 [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ > > We are BiosScience Communications, a medical education and > > communications company, working together with Pfizer, the makers of [quoted text clipped - 79 lines] > > > > SURELY no one's still reading all this . . . again . . . so why print it? > > Use a starting dose of 25 mg for a patient who may have increased plasma > > levels (age>65, hepatic impairment, severe renal impairment, and [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > I got it also. Capiche? I.P. Ditz!! And I fell for it and also scrolled down.......SMACK!! (G) FWIW, on the Microsoft ng's, we all top post (and snip most times).....I get heck on the antivirus and genealogy ones for doing so......so you can't win 'em all. I prefer top posting and will continue to do so. Even tho (gasp!!), some anal genealogy types have said they will not read top posted items. I think the battle between which is *proper*.....top or bottom posting...must be the most annoying & frequent battle on news groups.....and I ain't changing. However, I will intersperse if needed. Just my 2 Cdn. cents worth......Heather (and I did snip all of it, grin) > I'm bothered far less by spam that by having to scroll through pages of > unsnipped quotes, looking closely at the nunber of ">>>s" to see when it [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > I.P. I agree with you, too. Still a "newbie" here, I value this group so much, but it does slow me down a lot when the message is not top posted. It can be very irritating. Just my opinion . > I'm bothered far less by spam that by having to scroll through pages of > unsnipped quotes, looking closely at the nunber of ">>>s" to see when it [quoted text clipped - 191 lines] > > I.P. Now invoke the SNIP key, and you're there. ;-) More follows below for the bottom-post lovers. > I agree with you, too. Still a "newbie" here, I value this group so much, > but it does slow me down a lot when the message is not top posted. It can [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > >> > talkers > >> > about erectile dysfunction online and inviting them to join our VIAGRA® > >> > (sildenafil citrate) Expert Consumers Forum. It is a password protected > >> > site that will contain useful information on ED, and new developments [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > >> > > >> > The VIAGRA® (sildenafil citrate) Expert Consumers Forum is an exclusive > >> > new resource for people like you, influencers who share high-quality > >> > comments and provide emotional support. Please let us know if you would [quoted text clipped - 97 lines] > > > > I.P. Made ya look . . . TWICE! BTW . . . there's a spot on your tie. I.P. I'm a dumb dumb. What is the snip key? > Now invoke the SNIP key, and you're there. ;-) > [quoted text clipped - 230 lines] > > I.P. He is just teasing, Stavros.....there is no such key. But you can highlight and use the Delete key to get rid of extraneous parts of the post. Cheers......Heather > I'm a dumb dumb. What is the snip key? > [quoted text clipped - 91 lines] > >> >> > > >> >> > ED TEAM _____________________________________________________________________ > >> >> > We are BiosScience Communications, a medical education and > >> >> > communications company, working together with Pfizer, the makers of [quoted text clipped - 134 lines] > > > > I.P. Just as I said--dumb dumb. > He is just teasing, Stavros.....there is no such key. But you can > highlight [quoted text clipped - 276 lines] >> > >> > I.P. What Heather said. I.P. "Heather" wrote > you can highlight and use the Delete key > to get rid of extraneous parts of the post. SNIP Ahhhhhhh . . . visual silence. '-) (snip) > SNIP > Ahhhhhhh . . . visual silence. '-) Indeed, judicious snippage is an important part of Usenet protocol. It's also courteous. That's mainly what the protocols are about: being courteous to one another. One should not be forced to scroll down to find whatever it is that the present top-poster is going on about. And then there are those who seem to think that only they and their correspondent are involved in a private exchange, evidently being unfamiliar with e-mail. Or telephones. Or even snail-mail. They post a response with no reference whatever to that text to which they are responding. Those types are thrown overboard without a second glance. Regards, Steve J __ "Men occasionally stumble on the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." -- Sir Winston L. S. Churchill > I'm bothered far less by spam that by having to scroll through pages of > unsnipped quotes, looking closely at the nunber of ">>>s" to see when it [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > > BioScience Communications is working together with Pfizer Inc, the > > > makers of VIAGRA? (sildenafil citrate), to help people and doctors learn > > > more about erectile dysfunction (ED). We have a new information only > > > program in which we are reaching out to some of the most engaged talkers > > > about erectile dysfunction online and inviting them to join our VIAGRA? > > > (sildenafil citrate) Expert Consumers Forum. It is a password protected > > > site that will contain useful information on ED, and new developments in [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > > communications company, working together with Pfizer, the makers of > > > VIAGRA? (sildenafil citrate) to help patients and doctors learn about ED > > > treatments. Please forgive the intrusion, but we have been researching > > > online information about VIAGRA? (sildenafil citrate) and recognize that > > > discussion forums can be a great patient-to-patient education resource. > > > Our team is impressed with the information and conversations that take > > > place here. > > > > > > We work closely with Pfizer's ED experts ? health care professionals and > > > consumers ? and we would like to invite you to join our VIAGRA? > > > (sildenafil citrate) Expert Consumers Forum. This is not an > > > advertisement but an invitation to explore information in our forum. > > > > > > The VIAGRA? (sildenafil citrate) Expert Consumers Forum is an exclusive > > > new resource for people like you, influencers who share high-quality > > > comments and provide emotional support. Please let us know if you would [quoted text clipped - 72 lines] > > > > > > Please see full prescribing information for VIAGRA? (sildenafil citrate) > > > (25-mg, 50-mg, 100-mg) tablets. > > > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > I.P. Okay > Pfizer seems to have harvested e-mail addresses from this group. Or am I > the only one who got this one? > > I don't know why they're talking to me, I've never had anything to say about > ED. jimhoney <snip> > Dear Jim, > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > anyone else you think would be interested, please feel free to forward the > message below. Is this legitimate? I tried to look up the owner of the domain pfizerexpertconsumersforum.com and found that Network Solutions is hiding the real owner. A traceroute shows the server is at secureserver.net and the owner of that domain is also hidden. Some of the other domains referenced are clearly traceable to Pfizer Inc. A google search of "BioScience Communications" produces agencies that do not appear to conduct consumers forums. Al Al's sleuthing raises a good point. Maybe this spammer is spoofing a connection to Pfizer. I don't use any Pfizer products or own any of their stock. But if anybody who got this spam cares about Pfizer and its corporate image, maybe you could take up this matter with the appropriate company official and see what they say. jimhoney >>Pfizer seems to have harvested e-mail addresses from this group. Or am I >>the only one who got this one? [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Al
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