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c palmer - 04 Jan 2005 18:17 GMT
Plastic used in food container stimulates growth of certain prostate
cancer cells

Tuesday 4th January  

04 Jan 2005

An estrogen-like chemical commonly used to synthesize plastic food
containers has been shown to encourage the growth of a specific category
of prostate cancer cell, potentially affecting the treatment efficacy
for a subset of prostate cancers.

According to a study published in the January 1 issue of Cancer
Research, such prostate cancer cells proved to be vulnerable to exposure
to the chemical BPA (bisophenol A), an industrial chemical and
nonsteroidal environmental estrogen used in the manufacture of food
cans, milk container linings, food storage containers and water supply
pipes. About 2.5 billion pounds of the chemical are produced each year.

In particular, the study showed that the affected class of prostate
cancer cell, characterized by mutated receptors for androgens, the male
hormone, can proliferate in response to BPA.

"The results may have implications for men who develop BPA-susceptible
mutations in their androgen receptor genes during the course of prostate
cancer treatment, although these concepts will need to be verified in
animal systems," according to Karen Knudsen, Ph.D., an assistant
professor in the University of Cincinnati's Department of Cell Biology
and Center for Environmental Genetics. Scientists estimate that anywhere
from eight to 25 percent of all prostate cancer patients may fall into
this category.

In the United States alone this year, almost 220,000 men will be
diagnosed with prostate cancer. The disease is the second most common
type of cancer found in American men, and approximately 29,000 men will
die from prostate cancer this year.

Many cases of prostate cancer depend on androgens like testosterone for
tumor growth and cancer cell proliferation, said Dr. Knudsen, the
study's senior author. A common treatment for prostate cancer includes
limiting testosterone synthesis. Patients with mutated androgen
receptors may not respond to this therapy and according to this new
study, exposure to BPA among these patients could potentially put them
at higher risk for increased cancer cell growth.

"The results we see in cell culture in response to BPA are ready to be
moved to appropriate animal models next," said Dr. Knudsen. The effect
of the environmental non-steroidal BPA on human prostate cancer tumor
implants in laboratory animal models will shed additional light on
whether the synthetic pseudo-estrogen encourages tumor growth in whole
animal systems.

"We'll know more about the 'hormone sensitizing' ability of BPA in
prostate cancer cells from studies on animals. It is also important to
note that our study demonstrates that the actual dose of BPA exposure
may change the biological response," Dr. Knudsen said.

The safety of BPA has been under intense debate for several years, with
some arguing that exposure to the chemical among humans is safe, with
others contending that it may promote the growth of human tumor cells
and alter the growth and development of animals.

Also participating in the study were Yelena Wetherill, Ph.D., Nicola
Fisher, B.S., and Ann Staubach, B.S., all with the University of
Cincinnati; Mark Danielsen, Ph.D., Georgetown University, Washington,
D.C.; and Ralph De Vere White, M.D., the University of California,
Davis.

Founded in 1907, the American Association for Cancer Research is a
professional society of more than 24,000 laboratory, translational, and
clinical scientists engaged in all areas of cancer research in the
United States and in more than 60 other countries. AACR's mission is to
accelerate the prevention and cure of cancer through research,
education, communication, and advocacy. Its principal activities include
the publication of five major peer-reviewed scientific journals: Cancer
Research; Clinical Cancer Research; Molecular Cancer Therapeutics;
Molecular Cancer Research; and Cancer Epidemiology, Biomarkers &
Prevention. AACR's Annual Meeting attracts more than 15,000 participants
who share new and significant discoveries in the cancer field. Specialty
meetings, held throughout the year, focus on the latest developments in
all areas of cancer research.
American Association for Cancer Research

knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional    
"Many more men die with prostate cancer than of it. Growing old is
invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so."
http://community.webtv.net/PALMER_ENT/doc
I.P. Freely - 05 Jan 2005 22:49 GMT
Wunnerful, wunnerful.
I stopped eating known harmful foods 20 years ago. Bacon, pizza, cheese,
butter, margarine, pastries (that's right; not one donut or rib or stick of
butter/marg in 20 years), white bread/rice/pasta, ribs, candy, pie, any
snack "food" made in a factory, ice cream, whole milk, cream, and on and
on -- cold turkey, plus or minus a pizza or sliced of pie without the crust
(trans fats!!!) each year and plus a little home-cooked LEAN red meat now
and then. I was gonna still be playing sports into my 80s, at least.

But over those two decades, we've "discovered" dozens of foods or cooking
techniques that are, if we're to believe the media or the labs, risky,
dangerous, or downright deadly. Just since I was Dx'd with PC last August
I've read about 4-5 ways I "brought my cancers on myself". First,
grapefruit renders many common prescription meds harmful. Then it's cleared
of that but promotes PC through some androgen receptor pathway or another.
(I drink a jug a day of Diet Ruby Red because we gotta drink SOMETHING and I
hate water if I'm not thirsty and I don't perceive thirst and most juices
are full of sugar or HFCS and pop is bad for us and the sky is falling and
most of us WILL die someday and the IRS MIGHT even stop taxing us a few
years after that.) Next, low stomach acid contributes to colon cancer and
inhibits anti-osteoporosis meds -- but I must suppress my stomach acid to
prevent GERD and esophageal cancer and repeated dilation. Now the
microwave-safe Crapperware I've nuked my cruciferous veggies (and half of
the rest of my hot foods) in for 20 years is killing me?

Three lessons from all this:
1. Everything's poisonous, or at the very least costs us some freaking
disease or another.
2. When my first cancer symptom appears, all bets are off. The sicker I get,
the more CRAP (in deference to the 14-year-old daughters out there) I'm
going to eat. My last months on this earth will be a conveyor belt of the
very best/worst of the foods and manufactured crap the commercial "food"
industry can crank out. I may even go into my first MacDonald's in >20 years
as soon as my life insurance company pays off my widow-to-be.
3. I'm also going to buy another motorcycle, the fastest Japanese crotch
rocket money can buy. I gave 'em up for safety's sake decades ago, but that
won't matter at some point, any more than how I cook my broccoli, and I'd
FAR rather die at 160 on a bike than eating broccoli.

My last meal will last months, not just an hour. And I'm nuking the whole
damned thing in Crapperware. And then I'm going for a ride on that bike.

I.P.

> Plastic used in food container stimulates growth
> of certain prostate cancer cells
c palmer - 06 Jan 2005 07:04 GMT
hi I.P. - i've been told to watch the movie "super size me".  it's about
McD's and the effect of eating their food for 30 days and the effects it
had on the human body.

when i stop to think of that lovely charcoal grill......... steak juices
dripping in to the fire and the flames that have been loaded with those
transfats licking the bottom side of that meat - sealing in all that
flavor......well, it's just makes my mouth water for that wonderful
taste you get from grilling out.   of course, you will have to wash it
down with some of this cancer causing plastic that you are drinking out
of.  not to mention some of the other flavorings and foods that have
been known to kill rats (but of course we are not rats and it doesn't
apply - until we are big lab rats in the sky)  

i guess my way of looking at it is like this.  hell, something is going
to kill me.  i've already lived a lot longer than the average age of a
man who lived at 1900.  average age of death then was 49.  

so, kick back enjoy life and good friends and live because we certainly
don't know what tomorrow is going to bring.

~ curtis

knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional    
"Many more men die with prostate cancer than of it. Growing old is
invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so."
http://community.webtv.net/PALMER_ENT/doc
Alisson - 06 Jan 2005 17:38 GMT
There's nothing that special about Super Size Me -- I'm not too sure
why you've been told to watch it.

It might be worth a  rental at best, but i wouldn't get upset if i
missed it.
I.P. Freely - 07 Jan 2005 01:19 GMT
SSM is an excellent movie. GIVEN HIS STATED PREMISES, it's set up,
explained, and executed logically. It's also fun to watch, IMO.

I.P.

> hi I.P. - i've been told to watch the movie "super size me".  it's about
> McD's and the effect of eating their food for 30 days and the effects it
> had on the human body.
Alisson - 10 Jan 2005 21:30 GMT
> SSM is an excellent movie. GIVEN HIS STATED PREMISES, it's set up,
> explained, and executed logically. It's also fun to watch, IMO.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> > McD's and the effect of eating their food for 30 days and the effects it
> > had on the human body.

The thing is, I don't really think that I fully grasped his stated
premise.  Was he talking about general obesity trends in America,
pointing fingers at the fast food industry or just arguing against
overeating.  There is a lot of information presented in this film (some
of which, I'm not sure is 100% accurate based on some of the
reviews/reports that I've read about the film), it just didn't seem to
fit well together -- the weird music, his vomiting stints, the
interviews with his doctors.

I do agree with you in the sense that its a lot of fun to watch --
Spurlock is, to say the least, very charismatic.
I.P. Freely - 10 Jan 2005 22:07 GMT
It's been too long since I saw it to remember details. What I do recall is
that as we left the movie, my wife pointed out several flaws in his facts,
premises, logic, etc. When I reminded her of things said or shown in the
movie which satisfied her objections, she concurred. We saw the movie for
its entertainment value, and were surprised that it was also fairly well
done as a pop documentary of sorts. Its basic claim that junk food is dismal
fare from a health standpoint is pretty tough to refute, we enjoyed watching
it, the medical consultation scenes added documentary credibility, and the
movie flowed well, IMO. That's a Thumbs Up for me.

I don't recall -- or care -- whether all his information is precisely
correct, as I didn't see the movie to learn facts. I don't recall any
obvious factual errors, however. You ask, "Was he talking about general
obesity trends in America, pointing fingers at the fast food industry, or
just arguing against overeating?" You betcha! Whether he narrowed that down,
I don't remember, but he surely got his point(s) across. For one, I consider
the fast food industry to be about as devious, irresponsible, and hazardous
as the tobacco industry. Unfortunately for weak-willed consumers, both are
legal.

I.P.

"Alisson" <aleroona@yahoo.com> wrote >

> The thing is, I don't really think that I fully grasped his stated
> premise.  Was he talking about general obesity trends in America,
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> I do agree with you in the sense that its a lot of fun to watch --
> Spurlock is, to say the least, very charismatic.
helena - 13 Jan 2005 17:57 GMT
>>We saw the movie for its entertainment value, and were surprised that
it was also fairly well done as a pop documentary of sorts.

I'm glad that you and your wife looked at this film as more of
entertainment value-I think a lot of people took the film way too
seriously.
I.P. Freely - 13 Jan 2005 22:39 GMT
Much like that OTHER recent mockumentary. '-)
OTOH, more people SHOULD take "Supersize Me" seriously. It would save
countless lives and insurance premiums.

I.P.

> >>We saw the movie for its entertainment value, and were surprised that
> it was also fairly well done as a pop documentary of sorts.
>
> I'm glad that you and your wife looked at this film as more of
> entertainment value-I think a lot of people took the film way too
> seriously.
Steve Kramer - 06 Jan 2005 07:27 GMT
> I stopped eating known harmful foods 20 years ago.

> When my first cancer symptom appears, all bets are off. The sicker I get,
> the more CRAP (in deference to the 14-year-old daughters out there) I'm
> going to eat. My last months on this earth will be a conveyor belt of the
> very best/worst of the foods and manufactured crap the commercial "food"
> industry can crank out.

I'm 20 years ahead of you (or 9 if you substract the difference in our
ages).  Long ago I figured out that I could live a couple years longer if I
ate right, exercised often and generally made myself miserable my whole
life.  I decided the extra couple weren't worth it.
I.P. Freely - 07 Jan 2005 01:08 GMT
> Long ago I figured out that I could live a couple years longer if I
> ate right, exercised often and generally made myself miserable my whole
> life.  I decided the extra couple weren't worth it.

Uh, oh . . . soapbox alert. I'm a strong advocate of plenty of the right
kinds of exercise (i.e., hard play) and eating.

I'm your basic hedonist, so hard play and heavy eating aren't sacrifices to
me. In fact, they are life's two greatest lasting pleasures. I walked away
from my career when it got in the way of my play, and may risk my life by
avoiding HT because it would halt my play. I still eat more and play longer
and harder than 98% of the college-age kids I know, so not only has it
already added decades of vigor to my life, I suspect it will allow a couple
more vigorous decades if I can just beat Partin's statistics.

CERTAINLY my eating is "worth it": what's not to like about a few
plate-sized blueberry pancakes swimming in syrup, a huge slab of salmon on
the grille, a home-made enchilada casserole, a two-pound wok of fresh ginger
chicken & veggie stir fry, two dinner plates of whole wheat spaghetti buried
in a quart of sauce (lycopene!), a big double handful of raisin walnut
cranberry whole wheat bread smothered in Italian seasoning olive oil, a
six-egg omelet full of fresh bell peppers and low-fat cheese and buried in
salsa and jalapenos and low-fat sour cream, and/or a quart-sized chunk of
home made angel-food cake completely buried in fresh strawberries and buried
again in Real Whip (actual whipped cream tastes like so much lard to me
now)? No, not all in one sitting, or one day, but it makes a helluva 3-day
weekend.)

All that and thousands of hours of hard play to add decades of vigor and
maybe a few years of heartbeat, and all I had to give up was junk food? Not
a big sacrifice, definitely "worth it" to me, and there will still be plenty
of time to eat junk food when it doesn't matter any more.

Hard play probably really doesn't subtract from our time on earth, and great
food may not, either, if it's the right stuff.

I.P.
Danny McCarty - 06 Jan 2005 19:28 GMT
>Subject: Re: Plastic used in food container stimulates growth of
>certainprostate c
>From: "I.P. Freely" fuhgeddaboutit@noway.not
>Date: 1/5/2005 4:49 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: <if_Cd.23068$hW4.8930@fe07.lga>

Yeah, I have NEVER given up any of that stuff.  All nonsense.  Sensible potions
is the key, not abstinence.

>Wunnerful, wunnerful.
>I stopped eating known harmful foods 20 years ago. Bacon, pizza, cheese,
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
>
>I.P.
I.P. Freely - 07 Jan 2005 00:07 GMT
Apparently not true with trans fats. The medically acceptable amount of
those is zero. And I found it far easier to cut back on the deadlier crap by
just going cold turkey on it rather than deciding when and how much to eat.
By simply eliminating the worst offenders from my life, I eliminated any
desire for them almost immediately. Donuts, bacon, ribs, margarine . . .
crap like that disgusts me enough that I simple haven't wanted any of it
since I learned how harmful it is. That attitude lets me eat the occasional,
rare dessert buffet or cheese dip guilt-free. I am aware of no redeeming
ingredients in "foods" like those.

I.P.

"Danny McCarty" <roachable@aol.comneat> wrote > >
> Yeah, I have NEVER given up any of that stuff.  All nonsense.  Sensible potions
> is the key, not abstinence.
helena - 07 Jan 2005 01:03 GMT
cpalmer-ssm doesn't teach you anything you don't know already. The key
to any healthy lifestyle is watching your portions, which this lamo did
not practice-to say the least.
Tom Cular - 07 Jan 2005 09:33 GMT
IP,
You constantly speak of QOL and then state that you've given up all of the
tastey foods for the past two decades because some "health guru", somewhere
along the line advised it. Unfortunately, you were still  cursed with two
types of cancer despite the the restricted diet. Something is wrong with
this picture when someone believes that a wholesome diet alone will prevent
serious disease.
IMHO, I agree with Danny, moderation is probably the right route, i.e. a
glass of red wine might be beneficial 5 glasses probably not. As far as the
broccoli is concerned; some is OK as long as it's accompanied by a piece of
charbroiled beef.

Tom
> >Subject: Re: Plastic used in food container stimulates growth of
> >certainprostate c
[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
> >
> >I.P.
helena - 07 Jan 2005 15:56 GMT
> IP,
> You constantly speak of QOL and then state that you've given up all of the
[quoted text clipped - 72 lines]
> > >
> > >I.P.

First off Tom, I don't mean to be critical-but it doesn't seem good
natured to discuss why others may be dealt a rough hand with diseases.
As we well know, diet is an important aspect to a healthy body-but it
by no means is a precursor to whether or not you'll get cancer.
Genetics has quite a bit to do with it as well. And as someone who's
had two close family relatives who have done everything right
(healthwise) and still were faced with these types of challenges, I had
to say something.

As for the previous statements on ssm:

>>GIVEN HIS STATED PREMISES, it's set up, explained, and executed
logically.

I have to disagree-what is logical about what this man did? And what
was the profound premise that he was trying to gain. The film had me
laughing in several scenes-but logical is not how I would describe this
man's state.
I.P. Freely - 07 Jan 2005 18:42 GMT
My aunt ranted loudly and often against smokers and smoking for most of her
70 years before dying of throat cancer.
Caca pasa.

The logic was in the movie's well-defined premises, objectives and
constraints, making it a technically well-done documentary as entertaining
movies go. I've forgotten much since seeing it a year or so ago, but
examples include his choosing MacD because it is the top dog, his
supersizing everything IF ASKED TO DO SO because studies say most people do,
and his eating to the stuffed point because most people do. Who can eat just
one MacFry? My wife mentioned several flaws in his presumptions and logic as
we left the movie, but closer examination of the narration revealed
explanations for every apparent logic gap. After all, a lot of people,
especially latchkey kids, get most of their calories from MacD and its
clones. That's a major cause of the recent INCREDIBLE increase in obesity
and obesity-related disease in the US, and we KNOW what that does to us.
Example: our expected lifespan is DECREASING for the first time in recorded
history.

I.P.

> First off Tom, I don't mean to be critical-but it doesn't seem good
> natured to discuss why others may be dealt a rough hand with diseases.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> laughing in several scenes-but logical is not how I would describe this
> man's state.
helena - 07 Jan 2005 21:22 GMT
>>After all, a lot of people,
especially latchkey kids, get most of their calories from MacD and its
clones. That's a major cause of the recent INCREDIBLE increase in
obesity
and obesity-related disease in the US, and we KNOW what that does to
us.

But who's responsibility is that? I'd argue that much of it has to do
with the parents' role.
I.P. Freely - 07 Jan 2005 22:01 GMT
Of course. And the parents aren't doing much better themselves.

I.P.

> >>After all, a lot of people,
> especially latchkey kids, get most of their calories from MacD and its
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> But who's responsibility is that? I'd argue that much of it has to do
> with the parents' role.
I.P. Freely - 07 Jan 2005 18:21 GMT
> IP,
> You constantly speak of QOL and then state that you've given up all of the
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> broccoli is concerned; some is OK as long as it's accompanied by a piece of
> charbroiled beef.

Folks, this rant may seem self-centered at first glance, but its real
message is that even at our age we can change our habits to improve our QOL,
and often our life span, significantly. For example, guess what age group
responds most quickly and dramatically to increased exercise. Yup . . . OLD
people. Like 80s and 90s. So here goes.

Sorry, Tom, but I've researched and written about health issues for many
years. It's not just some "health guru"; just about every major university
and hospital medical center and research study on the planet agrees that
exercise and something like the Mediterranean diet -- including that wine in
moderation -- make a significant difference in our physical and mental QOL
and lifespan. Athletes in their 20s ask me often how they might match my
muscles and endurance, and I've never "worked out" in my life except for
occasional Bowflex sessions when my play time is hampered by weather and I'm
not building some dang yard thing or another. Stress EKG? "Jeez, guy, these
charts say you could play college football."

The other thing people comment on VERY often is the variety and quantity of
food I eat. When they're eating a dinky little bowl of cereal or frying up
some greasy breakfast stuff, I'm scarfing down a dinner plate heaped high
with layers of chicken enchiladas, beans, low-fat cheeses, salsa, peppers,
and low fat sour cream. Then we go out and play, and I outlast them
literally 3 to 1 . . . and many of them are 1/2 to 1/3 my age. Lunch?
They're eating bags of greasy manufactured crap from the 7-11 plus some
fried chicken WITH THE DAMN SKIN ON IT, while I'm eating barbecued jalapeno
beans, peanut butter on whole grain bread, fruit, a skinless chicken breast
slathered with raspberry chipotle sauce, and a big homemade lemon blueberry
walnut raisin muffin. Then they are exhausted by 5-6 PM -- usually HOURS
sooner -- and start grilling a slab of red meat with which to line their
arteries. I keep playing until it's too dark to play any more, often 5-6
hours past their endurance wall, then dive into that pile of blueberry
pancakes I mentioned and polish it off with a double-fisted chocolate bran
walnut raisin honey muffin. God, I'm starving just thinking about it . . .
and I don't even miss those 32-oz steaks I ate for decades before wising up.
Now I eat red meat maybe once a week, but only the leanest cuts and with a
pound or more of brightly colored vegetables.

Now . . . what are these tasty foods I've "given up"? OK, pizza, but only
because when I do eat one, I literally eat one. A whole, medium to large
one, with thick cheese-filled crust and ham and pineapple and chicken and
sweet peppers all over it. Damn; it's been months now. It's time.

Moderation is highly advisable in most aspects of our lives, but it doesn't
satisfy me. I pick activities and foods I really like and go whole hog,
which raises my QOL graph off the chart much of the time -- with risks. I
get away with it because I like burning off those calories even more than I
do putting them down. "Restricted diet"? I don't think sat fat and trans
fat, or unburned calories in general, are much to give up, not when it helps
avert a list of deadly diseases that would fill a paragraph. Type II
diabetes? Usually self-inflicted, voluntary, and reversible. Scores of
thousands of heart attacks and strokes? Self-inflicted and voluntary. Many
cancers? Promoted by bad diet and enabled by bad genes. Crushed knees and
ankles and hips due to obesity? Self-inflicted and to some degree
reversible. 10-20-30 years of crappy health and low QOL -- very often
self-inflicted and often reversible.

But when genes fail us, plus in my case 40 years of quantities you would not
believe of high-fat foods (example: a large thick-crust pizza with several
toppings plus two chocolate malts . . . for lunch, between normal breakfast
and supper), we get diseases. This PC brewed in my groin for a decade or
two, my doc says. He also says -- and his colleagues and he perform clinical
trials full time -- that so far there's no proven dietary link to PC's cause
or cures.

People here often comment on how important it is that we PC patients take
charge of our own PC care. Well, that also goes for the other aspects of our
health and vitality. Lots of exercise and a DELICIOUS, filling, wholesome
diet WILL add significantly to our lifespan and DRAMATICALLY to our QOL,
unless statistics and genes bite us in the a.s . . . or the crotch.

Rant off.

I.P.
Tom Cular - 08 Jan 2005 12:56 GMT
IP,
I wasn't scoffing at a healthy diet or your choices, but merely pointing out
that the best diet in the world will not prevent ( it may reduce the
possibility) us from contracting cancer. Sensible diets and lifestyles
certainly have a positive effect on diabetic, coronary and many other health
issues, I don't think many would disagree with that. In the past few years
I've made some dietary changes that should have been made years ago, I have
no doubt that being physically active all my life has been beneficial. I'm
63 and weigh about 10 lbs. more than I did in high school, my sugar is fine,
cholesterol under control without medication and BP under control. I still
enjoy bacon & eggs or a steak, even an occasional cigar, but in moderation,
these things also are a part of QOL.

Tom
*Snipped for brevity*
>> diet WILL add significantly to our lifespan and DRAMATICALLY to our QOL,
> unless statistics and genes bite us in the a.s . . . or the crotch.
>
> Rant off.
>
> I.P.
helena - 10 Jan 2005 19:49 GMT
>>Of course. And the parents aren't doing much better themselves.

Tell me about it-it's a very sad situation when kids are learning by
example from their folks.

But how do you think that SSM teaches us about the importance of
exercise and moderation when Spurlock does none of that?
I.P. Freely - 10 Jan 2005 22:29 GMT
His demonstration of the impacts of LACK of moderation make a pretty good
appeal for moderation, to me. And exercise or no exercise, overweight or
skinny as a board, no one should regularly consume the crap he ate in that
movie. Even scrawny marathoners can acquire major cardiovascular disease.
The list of "foods" I will put back into my diet when I can see the Grim
Reaper looming STILL doesn't include Big Macs. MacFries, maybe, and
supersized, but not Big Macs or their awful, plastic shakes. There's
man-made crap and there's decadence, and they're at opposite ends of the
Last Meal spectrum I want on my lips when *I* pull the plug.  ;-) When I eat
my way to the grave, it's going to be on Marie Calendar's French Silk pie
and pumpkin cinnamon malts made from Haagen Dasz.

I.P.

"helena" <helenasand_2@hotmail.com> asked>
> But how do you think that SSM teaches us about the importance of
> exercise and moderation when Spurlock does none of that?
helena - 13 Jan 2005 18:17 GMT
>>make a pretty good
appeal for moderation, to me. And exercise or no exercise, overweight
or
skinny as a board, no one should regularly consume the crap he ate in
that
movie.

I agree-the fact that he did was rather silly-I don't think though that
he educated us on the importance of learning about moderation though
and especially exercise. Some people can eat fast food more than
others-look at the Big Mac guy in the film-his cholesterol level was
normal. Everyone's bodies react differently to what we eat, and he was
no exception.
 
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