Three weeks ago (17 mos. post RRP) I was 2-3 pads a day, I am today
down to one or none. Had a couple of experiences that gave me an idea.
The first, two weeks ago, I was under stress in the office, under a
deadline, and peeing a lot that day (just 'cause of the stress). This
resulted in loss of sphincter control and substantially more leaking
the days following. I also recently experienced a substantial
improvement a day or two after drinking a large quantity of liquids in
the evening (love that oh-so-tasty, and healthy Silk soymilk!). So I
decided to try just going to the bathroom less, like only go every two
hours or more, and last Saturday night I did a little "exercise" of
holding back as much as I could and drinking a lot of fluids - I held
for another couple hours after I origninally felt the need to pee, and
kept on drinking. I found I could only do this sitting straight up.
When I finally let go I released about 10 oz., which was really good
for me since a few months ago I could only hold at most about half that
(I had BPH pre-op, so my bladder had shrunk). Anyway, today almost
perfect control is back after a big lapse early last September when I
did a lot of Kegels one night after three months of relative
continence, resulting in a period of incontinence that lasted until the
last few days. Bottom line (IMO) is that Kegels of are limited use, and
probably were actually destructive in my first 10 months post-op. So my
suggestion for those that are having problems in this area is a) stop
Kegels, b) go as infrequently as you can, and hold as much as you can,
and c) exercise by sitting, drinking and holding for a couple hours
after you feel the need to go; you only need to do this latter exercise
a couple times a month. Good luck and godspeed! Yours truly, (today) a
(very) happy camper.
I.P. Freely - 10 Dec 2004 01:08 GMT
Hey, it sounds worth trying. I can Kegel 'til the cows come home, eve in the
middle of a good void, but what good do good Kegel muscles do if we must
think about it every standing moment?
Uh, about that soy milk . . . it is safer than whole milk, but it does
almost nothing of value for us. The only thing it's been proven to do is
slightly lower our cholesterol.
I.P.
> Three weeks ago (17 mos. post RRP) I was 2-3 pads a day, I am today
> down to one or none. Had a couple of experiences that gave me an idea.
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> a couple times a month. Good luck and godspeed! Yours truly, (today) a
> (very) happy camper.
Tdub - 10 Dec 2004 02:10 GMT
I didn't mean to say soymilk had any benefit for PCA, etc., but it is a
wonderful food, very healthy for you. I say this because of how I feel
consuming it, but the literature also seems to approve of soy for
general good health. Nice thing about soymilk is that you get the
benefit of a wonderful legume without the gas, it has to do with the
way they process it. And Silk brand is organic, and they use the entire
bean. I've noticed some brands only extract the protein part and the
oil (i.e., more processed, less in the natural form).
I.P. Freely - 10 Dec 2004 03:02 GMT
I'm just suggesting that you take it easy with that stuff if you drink much
of it. A quick search of authoritative web sites (e.g., university, medical)
reveals more substantiated concerns about it than proven benefits.
I.P.
> I didn't mean to say soymilk had any benefit for PCA, etc., but it is a
> wonderful food, very healthy for you. I say this because of how I feel
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> bean. I've noticed some brands only extract the protein part and the
> oil (i.e., more processed, less in the natural form).
c palmer - 10 Dec 2004 01:29 GMT
From: gripshift5@email.com (Tdub)
Three weeks ago (17 mos. post RRP) I was 2-3 pads a day, I am today down
to one or none. Had a couple of experiences that gave me an idea. The
first, two weeks ago, I was under stress in the office, under a
deadline, and peeing a lot that day (just 'cause of the stress). This
resulted in loss of sphincter control and substantially more leaking the
days following. I also recently experienced a substantial improvement a
day or two after drinking a large quantity of liquids in the evening
(love that oh-so-tasty, and healthy Silk soymilk!). So I decided to try
just going to the bathroom less, like only go every two hours or more,
and last Saturday night I did a little "exercise" of holding back as
much as I could and drinking a lot of fluids - I held for another couple
hours after I origninally felt the need to pee, and kept on drinking. I
found I could only do this sitting straight up. When I finally let go I
released about 10 oz., which was really good for me since a few months
ago I could only hold at most about half that (I had BPH pre-op, so my
bladder had shrunk). Anyway, today almost perfect control is back after
a big lapse early last September when I did a lot of Kegels one night
after three months of relative continence, resulting in a period of
incontinence that lasted until the last few days. Bottom line (IMO) is
that Kegels of are limited use, and probably were actually destructive
in my first 10 months post-op. So my suggestion for those that are
having problems in this area is a) stop Kegels, b) go as infrequently as
you can, and hold as much as you can, and c) exercise by sitting,
drinking and holding for a couple hours after you feel the need to go;
you only need to do this latter exercise a couple times a month. Good
luck and godspeed! Yours truly, (today) a (very) happy camper.
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hi tdub - glad things are working out for you. i think each person has
to find what works and what doesn't.
i sincerely wish you a very dry time from here on out, but in case it
doesn't happen, just remember that when you are tired, you might leak a
little bit - at least - that what i'm doing.
~ curtis
knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional
"Many more men die with prostate cancer than of it. Growing old is
invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so."
http://community.webtv.net/PALMER_ENT/doc
ButtercupsDad@dog.net - 10 Dec 2004 12:24 GMT
Congratulations for the success (I envy you - I'm 16 mos. post RRP)
and thank you for sharing what worked for you.
I have not been good about doing the Kegel exercises since returning
to work, but I will give your method a try.
Thank you again.
David S.
>Three weeks ago (17 mos. post RRP) I was 2-3 pads a day, I am today
>down to one or none. Had a couple of experiences that gave me an idea.
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>a couple times a month. Good luck and godspeed! Yours truly, (today) a
>(very) happy camper.