I was considering either radiation or surgery and for reasons I posted
earlier decided on surgery.
I met with my urologist today to go over the details and here are my
notes on the meeting --
Viv and I met with my urologist (Dr. DiCostanzo) today and he
confirmed that I am a good candidate for surgery.
Quals:
He does these operations 2-3 times per week and has been doing so for
10 years. He appears up-to-date on the latest surgical techniques and
issues.
Last week's meeting with the radiation oncologist:
He said that the pathologist that the radiation oncologist uses
confirmed that the Gleason score is 6. That makes 3 pathologists who
agree on the score.
The procedure:
The operation will be done through an opening 4" long from my belly
button to the pubic bone. They will start with an epidural anesthetic
followed by a non-narcotic general anesthetic. The bladder sphincter
will be spared as the urethra is cut below the neck of the bladder
so I have a better chance at urinary continence.
The first step is to check the lymph nodes for cancer. If they are
soft and fatty the operation will proceed. If there are any nodules,
they will immediately send a sample to a pathologist and proceed only
they are free of cancer.
The size of my prostate (60 grams) is not a problem to the procedure.
I asked what was the largest prostate he has seen 110 grams!
The catheter remains in for 15 days. There is also a drainage tube
with a rubber bladder that is used to remove fluid accumulation from
the site. This stays in place for 4 days.
His primary goal is to cure the cancer. He will spare the nerves
unless there is evidence of cancerous involvement. He mentioned that
the nerves are microscopic in size and cannot be seen. But surgeons
know where they are located.
I asked if he did the laprascopic technique and he mentioned that, in
his opinion, no-one does it well in Canada. He said that if I were
interested in that approach the best places are a doctor in Detroit
and in France where the technique was developed.
Outcomes:
He mentioned at an earlier meeting that his cure rate was in the high
ninety percentages at 10 years for a man with my stats (Age 63; PSA
6.7; Gleason 6; Free PSA 19%; 3 positive biopsy cores out of 17 with
10%/10%/5% cancer cells).
He reports that the incontinence rate of his patients is 2-5% at 1
month.
Potency rate is 50-70% at one year. At 18 months a person has reached
the "final" potency state.
Bleeding during the procedure:
I will donate 2 units of my own blood before the operation. Only 40%
of the Dr.'s patients require blood and less than 1% require more than
1 unit.
He said that normally there is not a lot of blood during the
procedure. However, if there are a lot of large blood vessels
surrounding the gland (which is more likely if the prostate is large)
then it may be a bloody operation.
The schedule:
The surgery is scheduled for Markham-Stouffville Hospital on Monday,
October 27. I will be out of bed on Tuesday, walking on Wednesday and
discharged Friday A.M.
October 14 - Pre-op session at the Surgical Assessment Clinic.
Oct 16 and 23 - Donate blood.
Pre-op preparation:
He advised to eat fish rich in iron.
I should start iron supplements (900 mg/day) one month prior to the
operation.
It would be helpful to a good recovery for me to loose a few inches
around the waist be a "lean" patient.
He suggested not worrying about Kegel exercises now concentrate on
strengthening the stomach muscles.
Summary:
He answered all our questions satisfactorily. We have met with him
twice altogether and I have met him an additional two times. Both Viv
and I feel good about his skills and motivation to do a good job.
Dale J. - 05 Sep 2003 09:14 GMT
> I was considering either radiation or surgery and for reasons I posted
> earlier decided on surgery.
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> twice altogether and I have met him an additional two times. Both Viv
> and I feel good about his skills and motivation to do a good job.
Reading your post reminded me alot of my doctor. One of the things that
caught my eye was when he told you he would preserve the sphincher at
the bladder which my doctor said he did. I had always been under the
impression that had to go along with the prostate, but I guess not
always. Also the part about sparing the nerves, but cancer comes first
word for word.
So as for me I am now nine months post op and doing very well in all
areas, I'm back to jogging every day and can do any kind of work
including lifting heavy stuff with out any problems.
I know so little about this stuff so I hate to make any comments or
judgements as to doctors qualifications, but from what you have said the
doctor told you and your biopsy reports, I would be most confident of a
successful operation and recovery.
Good luck and be sure to let us all know how things are going and ask
questions.
Dale J.

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David S. - 05 Sep 2003 11:59 GMT
Bruce:
Sounds very good, I especially like the part about not removing the
sphincter at the base of the bladder.
On exercise, I did not lose any weight prior to the surgery, although I
needed to, but I did walk regularly. I have never driven the route I walked
to get an estimate of the mileage, but I would be gone for about an hour and
a half. I am sure that this helped me during the recovery. When I got up
and walked the next morning after surgery, I was surprised that I did not
need assistance to get out of the bed. They sent a big male nurse to assist
me, but all he did was hold the catheter bad and steer the pole with the
IV's. I really do think the walking paid off that way.
Wishing you best of luck.
Thank you.
David S.
> I was considering either radiation or surgery and for reasons I posted
> earlier decided on surgery.
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> twice altogether and I have met him an additional two times. Both Viv
> and I feel good about his skills and motivation to do a good job.
MH - 05 Sep 2003 12:52 GMT
Hi, Bruce.....
Sounds like the doctor answered all your questions.... and is very skilled
at what he does. Your chances of a complete cure are very good!
Try not to focus on the Oct. 27th date. Just spend some time now making
some good memories to carry with you as you work toward *full* recovery
afterwards.
Take care!
MikeH
> I was considering either radiation or surgery and for reasons I posted
> earlier decided on surgery.
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> twice altogether and I have met him an additional two times. Both Viv
> and I feel good about his skills and motivation to do a good job.
chuck@postop.com - 05 Sep 2003 13:35 GMT
Your doc sounds just fine. I changed urologists after the first one
did the biopsy with ultrasound but never scanned the prostate to look
for the tumor. The urologist at UCLA who did my surgery went through
the same routine with me as yours did. I did need two units of blood
which had been donated earlier as I bled around 1900 cc. He told me
later that those large veins bled easily and it was difficult to
remove the prostate without nicking them and causing bleeding. I was
not able to get out of bed until day two. I had a lot of pain which
was attributed to the lymph node dissection. However, that was May 5
and now I am completely continent, no dribbling, no pain, just feeling
fine and it sounds like you will be as well. Good luck.
Chuck H.
MH - 05 Sep 2003 21:45 GMT
This post just reminded me of something. My surgery for LRP turned out to
be much longer than expected because of a problem with the Carbon Dioxide
getting into my lungs... 7 hours. The doctor had not expected me to need
any blood, and I had not donated any prior to surgery. But... after
surgery..... he told me that I did need some blood and that he transfused my
own blood supply back into me. It sounded as if it was blood lost during
the surgery... that was somehow rerouted back into my veins. I never talked
with him about it afterwards. And I just remembered. Does that idea make
sense? Is it possible to reroute blood from surgery??
Take care, guys.....
MikeH
> Your doc sounds just fine. I changed urologists after the first one
> did the biopsy with ultrasound but never scanned the prostate to look
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> Chuck H.
John Loomis - 06 Sep 2003 01:52 GMT
Hi Bruce, seems like you are on the right course for recovery of prostate
cancer. I would suggest kiegels now, and after, and do walk a lot.
If you want any more info, please send me e-mail. I feel the Dr. you chose
is headed in the right direction for you!
I was 49 when dx...I had simiar lab results. I am 53, and waiting for my 3
to 4 year PSA. so far so good, and do wish you the same.
John Loomis
> I was considering either radiation or surgery and for reasons I posted
> earlier decided on surgery.
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> twice altogether and I have met him an additional two times. Both Viv
> and I feel good about his skills and motivation to do a good job.
Doug49 - 06 Sep 2003 03:49 GMT
Bruce, Good news and good choice. Try to keep upbeat while you are
waiting. Enjoy the time knowing that you are in control and doing
something very positive. Surviving Pca can be a life-changing
experience with many positive aspects if you just keep your
perspective.
Best of luck. Keep us posted.
Doug G. (Toronto)
Dx 10/15/02 at age 49
PSA 1.26; Gleason 6; Stage T2b; RP 12/04/02; PSA undectable since
> I was considering either radiation or surgery and for reasons I posted
> earlier decided on surgery.
Steve Kramer - 07 Sep 2003 00:10 GMT
I think you've taken the right road to a decision. Best now to put it on
automatic pilot and enjoy life until then. When you go it, it will be all
over so fast you won't believe (slightly longer for the wife). Good luck
and may God be looking down on you.

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PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000
PSA .1 .1 .1 .3 .4 .8
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA .3 .2 .2 .2 .3
Erection 05/12/2003 @ 48
HT 07/21&09/04/2003 @ 48
> I was considering either radiation or surgery and for reasons I posted
> earlier decided on surgery.
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> twice altogether and I have met him an additional two times. Both Viv
> and I feel good about his skills and motivation to do a good job.