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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate Cancer / November 2004High blood pressure and Viagra, Cialis?
Does anyone know if there is a problem taking medicine for high blood pressure and then taking Viagra or Cialis? Last night I caught just a tail end of a Cialis commercial when they were talking about "don't take Cialis if...", and one thing mentioned was high blood pressure. For some reason I have never picked up on that before. Thank you. David S. > Does anyone know if there is a problem taking medicine for high > blood pressure and then taking Viagra or Cialis? Last night I caught > just a tail end of a Cialis commercial when they were talking about > "don't take Cialis if...", and one thing mentioned was high blood > pressure. For some reason I have never picked up on that before. I think it may depend on the blood pressure drug you are taking. Viagra and Cialis can reduce your blood pressure, and if you are all ready taking a drug which does the same thing, it is possible there might be adverse consequences. You should talk to your doctor about this and make sure he knows all the drugs you are taking. I think it is safe if you are careful and do it under medical supervision. > Thank you. > David S. >Subject: High blood pressure and Viagra, Cialis? >From: ButtercupsDad@dog.net [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Thank you. >David S. I don't remember if Cialis/Viagra constricts the veins that let blood out of the penis or relaxes the arteries that let blood into the penis... If it constricts blood vessels it might increase your blood pressure. Better ask your doctor. >>Subject: High blood pressure and Viagra, Cialis? >>From: ButtercupsDad@dog.net [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > constricts blood vessels it might increase your blood pressure. Better ask > your doctor. Read the description of how an erection occurs in Walsh's book or elsewhere. It is a complex biochemical and neurological process. These drugs work by affecting one step in the procedure basically to allow an erection to occur normally. But they also tend to reduce blood pressure as a side effect, and they can enhance the effects of other drugs containing nitrates. As a result, blood pressure can drop to dangerously low levels. One of the warnings is never to administer nitroglycerine to someone who recently took Viagra. > Does anyone know if there is a problem taking medicine for high > blood pressure and then taking Viagra or Cialis? Last night I caught [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Thank you. > David S. Are you taking an ace inhibitor or an alpha blocker? One is fine the other is not, and I'm not going to guess and make a mistake.... ask your doc.  SignatureJK Sinrod Sinrod Stained Glass Studios www.sinrodstudios.com Coney Island Memories www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories The Lysinopril is an ACE inhibitor (spelling may be off), and the hydroclorothyaside (I know I don't have that one right) is a diuretic. I did put in a call to the doctor. I will post what he says when I get a response. Thank you all. David S. >> Does anyone know if there is a problem taking medicine for high >> blood pressure and then taking Viagra or Cialis? Last night I caught [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Are you taking an ace inhibitor or an alpha blocker? One is fine the other >is not, and I'm not going to guess and make a mistake.... ask your doc. I notice my pulse races, or atleast is elevated when taking Viagra. My Dr. had me reduce the dosage but did not express concern about avoiding it. MrBill > > Does anyone know if there is a problem taking medicine for high > > blood pressure and then taking Viagra or Cialis? Last night I caught [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Are you taking an ace inhibitor or an alpha blocker? One is fine the other > is not, and I'm not going to guess and make a mistake.... ask your doc. Dr told me NOT to take any of that stuff if heart problems exist..I have a Pacer and a bit of hi BP..That stuff INCREASES the BP a lot and pumps up your organ.. Dr told me NOT to take any of that stuff if heart problems exist..I have a Pacer and a bit of hi BP..That stuff INCREASES the BP a lot and pumps up your organ.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Have a nice Thanksgiving" I'm not a doctor, and I don't know how it interacts with other hi BP medications, but my understanding is that Viagra *lowers* blood pressure. It was originally developed as a high blood pressure drug. The warning not to use with nitrates is because it can drop bp to dangerous levels Ask your doctor if in any doubt. These medications LOWER your BP. Do not take them with grapefruit juice which increases their tendency to lower BP. Ask your doctor, don't rely on what you read here (including anything I wrote here) for something as important as this. Dr told me NOT to take any of that stuff if heart problems exist..I have a Pacer and a bit of hi BP..That stuff INCREASES the BP a lot and pumps up your organ.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Have a nice Thanksgiving" I did put in a call to his office yesterday. No response yet. I will post what he says. Did not know that about grapefruit juice. What about other fruit juices, or is it something specific to the grapefruit juice? Thank you. David S. >Ask your doctor if in any doubt. These medications LOWER your BP. Do = >not take them with grapefruit juice which increases their tendency to = >lower BP. > >Ask your doctor, don't rely on what you read here (including anything I = >wrote here) for something as important as this. > I did put in a call to his office yesterday. No response yet. I will > post what he says. > > Did not know that about grapefruit juice. What about other fruit > juices, or is it something specific to the grapefruit juice? I think it is specific to grapefruit juice, but I don't know if the effect is uniformly accepted by physicians. Muy urologist scoffed at it when I asked him, but he may not have heard about it at the time. I do know that once early in the game, when Viagra was not having much effect, that I took it after I had coincidentally eaten a lot of grapefruit. I had heard of the warnings but just forgot about them at the time. The Viagra didn't have much intended effect and I ended up using a pump, but I did check my blood pressure afterwards out of curiosity. It was down to something like 98 over 60. I felt perfectly fine, but that is considerably lower than my blood pressure has been in years. > Thank you. > David S. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >>Ask your doctor, don't rely on what you read here (including anything I = >>wrote here) for something as important as this. A quick google: "Drinking grapefruit juice to wash down some prescription medicines may be dangerous because the juice can raise blood concentrations of the drug beyond what the dosage calls for, researchers said on Tuesday. Unlike other citrus juices, grapefruit juice inhibits one of the body's intestinal enzyme systems and can result in marked increases in serum levels of some prescription drugs, such as those to treat heart disease and control blood pressure. Grapefruit juice does not pose a problem for those receiving medication intravenously, the report said." Here is a specific study on Viagra interaction with grapefruit juice: http://www.thebody.com/catie/viagra.html >> I did put in a call to his office yesterday. No response yet. I will >> post what he says. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >>>Ask your doctor, don't rely on what you read here (including anything I = >>>wrote here) for something as important as this. Joe (shaw) wrote: > Ask your doctor if in any doubt. These medications LOWER your BP. Do > not take them with grapefruit juice which increases their tendency to > lower BP. What the grape juice does is to increase your body's absorbtion of the drug. So all its effects are enahanced. You are effectively increasing the dose you take. > > Ask your doctor, don't rely on what you read here (including anything I [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > "Have a nice Thanksgiving" The primary care doctor called back and told me that I was okay using the Viarga and Cialis while on the blood pressure medications that I am on. One is an ACE inhibitor, Lisinopril (not sure of the spelling), and the other is a common diuretic, hydorclorothyazide (no idea how to spell that dude correctly). He did emphasize, however, that my blood pressure is "under control". That apparently makes a difference. He was curious why I was taking Viagra when it does not work for me. I told him about the supposed therapeutic effects. He had no comment on that, nor on the fact that the uro told me to take 200 mg. of the Viagra instead of the regular 100 mg. dose. I have never actually taken 200 mg. at one time. I tried 150 mg. and did not like the "blue haze" effect. Didn't think 200 mg. was such a great idea. And who wants a $20.00 stuffy nose?! He suggested I see the ED specialist and ask about an implant. Not too sure what he was trying to tell me there, i.e., no chance of it coming back naturally?? I do have an appointment there tomorrow, but that is for trying one of the different drugs for the injection. Thank you. David S. > Does anyone know if there is a problem taking medicine for high >blood pressure and then taking Viagra or Cialis? Last night I caught [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Thank you. >David S. > The primary care doctor called back and told me that I was okay using > the Viarga and Cialis while on the blood pressure medications that I [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > too sure what he was trying to tell me there, i.e., no chance of it > coming back naturally?? If you are still talking about your primary care doctor, just ignore what he said on that matter. He probably knows less than you do about your chances of regaining erections. But do follow his advice on possible drug interactions. > I do have an appointment there tomorrow, but > that is for trying one of the different drugs for the injection. > > Thank you. > David S. > Does anyone know if there is a problem taking medicine for high >blood pressure and then taking Viagra or Cialis? Last night I caught >just a tail end of a Cialis commercial when they were talking about >"don't take Cialis if...", and one thing mentioned was high blood >pressure. For some reason I have never picked up on that before. I'm on an ace inhibitor but was prescribed both Viagra and Levitra today. I haven't taken any of the "erection" drugs so far, 1.5 years post IMRT treatment, so once I fill this Rx, it will be my first experience. My oncologist is himself a PCa survivor, also treated by IMRT 3 years ago. He prescribed 25 mg Viagra daily, and then a 20 mg dose of Levitra prior to the doing the deed. His personal experience was that Viagra at higher doses and Cialis caused unpleasant side effects - headaches, muscle aches, heartburn - hence his "cocktail" approach with low dose of Viagra and Levitra. Anybody have any thoughts on or experience with this? You will probably discover that your medical coverage will not pay for these meds. They term them "lifestyle drugs" and don't all cover them. Ask your doctor to perscribe the viagra in 100 mg dosages and then split the pills roughly into quarters to get your daily 25 mg dosage. It won't be exact and they taste terrible uncoated but you will save a LOT of money, assuming your coverage won't pay. My ongoing thanks to John Loomis for first suggesting splitting higher dose viagra pills a couple of years ago! Hopefully you may find, as I did, that a few crumbs of viagra is all you need and you can skip the Cialis. JP >> Does anyone know if there is a problem taking medicine for high >>blood pressure and then taking Viagra or Cialis? Last night I caught [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Anybody have any thoughts on or experience with this? >You will probably discover that your medical coverage will not pay for these >meds. They term them "lifestyle drugs" and don't all cover them. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >assuming your coverage won't pay. My ongoing thanks to John Loomis for >first suggesting splitting higher dose viagra pills a couple of years ago! My insurance is great and covers the Viagra for a steal; Levitra for a bit more. The Doc prescribed 50 mg. Viagra and advised to cut in half as you suggest (easier to cut a 50 in half than a 100 in quarter, though more expensive). Can anybody explain the ethics of why 100 mg. pill costs the same as 25 mg? The economics is clear. >Hopefully you may find, as I did, that a few crumbs of viagra is all you >need and you can skip the Cialis. I'll experiment when my hoard arrives next week. I'll start with crumbs and build up :-) --dt >Subject: Re: High blood pressure and Viagra, Cialis? >From: Doug Taylor taylordw@choiceonemail.com [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >Can anybody explain the ethics of why 100 mg. pill costs the same as >25 mg? The economics is clear. Yes, nearly everything is cheaper per uint in larger quantities. >>Hopefully you may find, as I did, that a few crumbs of viagra is all you >>need and you can skip the Cialis. > >I'll experiment when my hoard arrives next week. I'll start with >crumbs and build up :-) >--dt |
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