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Did it for third time with injection last night

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Debbie Trujillo - 11 Oct 2004 14:20 GMT
I assisted John and even watched him put the needle in (and I can't stand to
watch shots being given).  Last night was the best.  I guess we have to get
used to it - although I have told John that we should mess around sometime
without it and see if he can get stimulated.  We only had to add KY once
last night.

I could hear John's uneasy breathing before he injected himself.  I told him
that if our internist ever tells him he has high blood pressure, the
injections have to stop.
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MH - 11 Oct 2004 14:36 GMT
Congrats, Debbie and John!! ;))

But..... I'm not quite sure why a high BP diagnosis would mean the shots
have to stop???  Surely there are guys out there who take BP meds and use
shots...

MikeH

>I assisted John and even watched him put the needle in (and I can't stand
>to
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> that if our internist ever tells him he has high blood pressure, the
> injections have to stop.
Debbie Trujillo - 11 Oct 2004 14:43 GMT
His blood pressure goes up right before the injection. That is what my
concern is about.  He's fine once it's over.

On 10/11/04 6:36 AM, in article g%vad.32602$VJ2.7194@fe40.usenetserver.com,

> Congrats, Debbie and John!! ;))
>
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>> that if our internist ever tells him he has high blood pressure, the
>> injections have to stop.

H
Leonard Evens - 11 Oct 2004 15:00 GMT
> His blood pressure goes up right before the injection. That is what my
> concern is about.  He's fine once it's over.

Blood pressure tends to vary a lot during the course of a day.  It is
the base or resting BP that doctors try to measure.  If his blood
pressure went through the roof before he administered the shot, I
suppose it could induce a stroke or something, but that doesn't sound
too likely to me.  However, I'm not a physician, and you should check
with your doctor about that sort of thing.

You can buy blood pressure monitors at most drug stores.  There are some
relatively inexpensive ones available.   It is best to take blood
pressure at a time when one is calm and rested.  He should lie down or
sit calmly and wait five minutes or so before beginning.  He should also
be careful that the cuff is at the level of his heart.  Blood pressure
can vary rather significantly just according to the height of the cuff
in relation to the heart.  I've also found that it is worthwhile taking
it more than once, although you have to wait several minutes between
tries.  I'm always nervous the first time, and the systolic is about 5
to 10 points high.  It almost always comes down significantly on further
tries.

If his resting blood pressure is too high, he should be on medication to
reduce it.   One advantage of using Viagra, by the way, is that it does
tend to lower blood pressure.   It was being tested as a blood pressure
drug when its effect on erections was discovered as a "side effect".  So
now the side effect is its major use.

> On 10/11/04 6:36 AM, in article g%vad.32602$VJ2.7194@fe40.usenetserver.com,
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John Loomis - 11 Oct 2004 15:06 GMT
Hello Debbie, He will get used to the idea, and will not be so nervous
concerning injections.  The injections help with blood supply and in time he
may find that he is healing in the nerve dept.
Good wishes.....I used injections over a period of 3/4 of a year, and
started to get normal function......thus no more injection.
John Loomis
> His blood pressure goes up right before the injection. That is what my
> concern is about.  He's fine once it's over.
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> H
jk - 11 Oct 2004 22:16 GMT
> I assisted John and even watched him put the needle in (and I can't stand to
> watch shots being given).  Last night was the best.  I guess we have to get
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> that if our internist ever tells him he has high blood pressure, the
> injections have to stop.

 Try to mess around sometime? You're not saying that you only do this with
such calculated intent are you? Be spontaneous and do all the rest of the
good stuff that makes us happy!

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Beverley - 12 Oct 2004 05:37 GMT
Glad to hear it worked well!!!

I'll agree with JK. "Mess around" as much as possible if that leads to using
the injection then okay, if it doesn't you still had an intimate enjoyable
time.

I do thing you get used to the injections. There is just something about a
needle. My mother could never give herself insulin so my sister or I did it
for her. To watch her try to give one to herself was beyond bad!!! (Guess we
made her co-dependant - ah, geez, you'd have to have been there!!) But
because it was something that was done all the time even our children got
used to needles and therefore never rebelled or cried when they had to get
theirs at the doctor's office. It always floored the nurses that my kids
never flinched over a needle - although they both do now that they are
grown!

So take the pressure off using the needle, in other words, don't be afraid
to have fun without using the needle. If fun leads to the needle then pull
it out and use it! Giving oneself an injection is not terribly difficult
once you get used to the idea. But try to separate the injection from the
fun. I'm not saying this right!!!! You can still have hot fudge cake, it
just takes the injection to have the whipped cream with the cherry. It's not
really needed but it is nice. If both of you begin to equate sex with
injection then the sex takes a back seat and then emphasis is on the
injection which is not going to be mentally helpful. If everything is so
completely pre-planned then something is lost.

I think that is why I like the Levitra better because it is not something
that is taken and has to be used within so many hours. It allows us to use
it when the right time happens. It also does not give my hubby the headache
he gets with Viagra. It's a case of the pill v.s. the diaphragm, et al. But
in your case you have to have the injection so make sure the injection does
not become the focus for having a intimate enjoyable time together.

We tend to use the pump now. Sometimes we use it and sometimes we don't.
Sometimes we manage without it and sometimes we never get that far.
Lovemaking definitely has changed since PC. In some ways it is better and in
others ways it is more difficult. You take the good with the not so great,
figure we are no longer kids looking for an animalistic rush. So what do we
have left? Hopefully a more mature, loving relationship that has learned to
be more intimate, a little slower, a little more thoughtful and one that can
really enjoy and no longer takes for granted a good stiff .....! (Remember
the days when you figured you had an extra 10 minutes??? LOL)
Bev

> > I assisted John and even watched him put the needle in (and I can't stand
> to
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> such calculated intent are you? Be spontaneous and do all the rest of the
> good stuff that makes us happy!
Beverley - 13 Oct 2004 03:05 GMT
I said Levitra and I meant to say Cialis.  We refer to it as the
once-a-weekend pill.
;-)
Bev

<SNIP>

> I think that is why I like the Levitra better because it is not something
> that is taken and has to be used within so many hours. It allows us to use
> it when the right time happens. It also does not give my hubby the headache
> he gets with Viagra. It's a case of the pill v.s. the diaphragm, et al. But
> in your case you have to have the injection so make sure the injection does
> not become the focus for having a intimate enjoyable time together.

<SNIP>
 
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