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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Prostate Cancer / September 2004New Target for Prostate Cancer Survivors.
Center of target should be (<0.01 .......... <0.1) Like a bulls eye. Everytime we get stuck we throw our darts...... Hopefully they hit that mark...... Anyway, we all anticipate PSA, and so do I...... Least we don't need a DRE, or a biopsy....... Good wishes to all of you, I am awaiting patiently my 5 year PSA. I live in a small town, and the big city is 200 miles away. I get my blood test here in the little town, and wait for a month to get results sent back from my Dr. in the Big City! I do not mind that.......It comes with the territory, so to speek.......No Hiways, some neighbors, lots of trees, and deer, racoons, bear, skunk, fox..... Have a nice labor day, practice kiegels, exersize willy, walk, and smell the roses. John Loomis, so far a survivor......... Good luck on the big 5! Supposedly, if you get a <.1, you're officially cured! > Center of target should be (<0.01 .......... <0.1) Like a bulls eye. > Everytime we get stuck we throw our darts...... [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > roses. > John Loomis, so far a survivor......... How do you get that info? I am cured after the big 5? I would hope so, but never saw that in print. Just checking. I always want to raddle the pot! John Loomis, thanks for the good luck. I should buy a lottery..... You are all my friends. > Good luck on the big 5! Supposedly, if you get a <.1, you're officially > cured! [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > roses. > > John Loomis, so far a survivor......... Hi John, I've seen it stated several times that 5 years with PSA <.1 is considered cured. I'll see if I can find the references. DO celebrate! Don > How do you get that info? > I am cured after the big 5? [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > > roses. > > > John Loomis, so far a survivor......... > I live in a small town, > I do not mind that.......It comes with the territory, so to speek.......No > Hiways, some neighbors, lots of trees, and deer, racoons, bear, skunk, > fox..... Toronto then I presume ??? Grin... Canada Bob. Fort Bragg...Calif. > > I live in a small town, > > I do not mind that.......It comes with the territory, so to speek.......No [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Canada Bob. >> I live in a small town, >> I do not mind that.......It comes with the territory, so to speek.......No [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Canada Bob. Couldn't be Toronto. He didn't mention the moose and Polar Bears that wander the streets. :) Gary Nichols > Center of target should be (<0.01 .......... <0.1) Like a bulls eye. > Everytime we get stuck we throw our darts...... [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > roses. > John Loomis, so far a survivor......... I was told 2 years of zero PSA and you're cured.  SignatureJK Sinrod Sinrod Stained Glass Studios www.sinrodstudios.com Coney Island Memories www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories >Subject: Re: New Target for Prostate Cancer Survivors. >From: "jk" jksinrod@aol.com [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > I was told 2 years of zero PSA and you're cured. But you never have zero PSA- your adrenals produce some PSA! <SNIP> > > I was told 2 years of zero PSA and you're cured. > > > But you never have zero PSA- your adrenals produce some PSA! I've read this ("adrenals produce some PSA..") many times here but am confused. The adrenal glands *do* produce 5% to 10% of testosterone -- the testes produce the rest. But I have yet to find any evidence that adrenals directly produce PSA. After a RRP of LRP the body continues to produce testosterone generally at the same level. Whether it's produced by the testes or adrenal glands would seem to be irrelevant. Can someone help me understand this one. Thanks Wasn't there a guy on this newsgroup about a year ago who reported a recurrence after nine years? After 5 years your chances of recurrence are pretty small but I don't think they ever hit zero. Dave Perry > Center of target should be (<0.01 .......... <0.1) Like a bulls eye. > Everytime we get stuck we throw our darts...... [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > roses. > John Loomis, so far a survivor......... > Wasn't there a guy on this newsgroup about a year ago who reported a > recurrence after nine years? After 5 years your chances of recurrence > are pretty small but I don't think they ever hit zero. > Dave Perry My recurrence became apparent eleven years after EBRT. Larry My Dr. said 5 years for watching PSA and you are curred. But Larry kind of blew that out of the water. 11 years?? wow. I guess we will continue to live with this time bomb for the rest of our lives. MrBill age at diagnosis 48 PSA 1.4 Gleason 3+3=6 T2a robotic RRP 12/15/03 PSA 4/2/04, 7/8/04 = <.1 age 49 > > Wasn't there a guy on this newsgroup about a year ago who reported a > > recurrence after nine years? After 5 years your chances of recurrence [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > My recurrence became apparent eleven years after EBRT. > Larry A person with another kind of cancer (lymphoma) would say, when asked if his treatments had cured him of the cancer, "I guess I'll know for sure I'm cured of this cancer when I die of something else." I think we're not too much different, in the final analysis. SignatureJerryW jweindel at flash dot net 2/11/04 PSA 2.6, Suspicious DRE (age 62) 2/23/04 Biopsy: Gleason 3+4=7, T2a, left lobe 5/18/04 RRP, Path: Gleason 4+3=7, T2c, both lobes Tumor organ-contained; lymph nodes clear, seminal vesicles clear Both nerve bundles spared 7/13/04 PSA <0.1 > My Dr. said 5 years for watching PSA and you are curred. But Larry > kind of blew that out of the water. 11 years?? wow. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > My recurrence became apparent eleven years after EBRT. > > Larry >Subject: Re: New Target for Prostate Cancer Survivors. >From: mrbill@misterpond.com (MrBill) [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >PSA 4/2/04, 7/8/04 = <.1 >age 49 Life is a gamble. If you go 5 years with an "undetectable" PSA, the probability of recurrence is rather low. Live as if you are cured. Life insurance at our age is too expensive, anyway. ;-} I do not know if it was the same poster, but one said that there is an 80% chance of cure once you've made it 5 years. Seems to me that person never gave a 100% standard. I think doctors figure 15 years is about right, but are tentative. It's hard to get good 15-year data on a disease that typically strikes within 10 years of the average male's lifespan. SignatureProstate Cancer Survivor (so far), not a doctor PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46 Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c RRP 12/15/2000 PSA .1 .1 .1 .27 .37 .75 EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47 PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32 Erection 05/12/2003 @ 48 HTbegins 07/21/2003 @ 48 PSA .07 .05 Lupron 7/03, 8/03, 12/03, 4/04 non illegitimi carborundum > Wasn't there a guy on this newsgroup about a year ago who reported a > recurrence after nine years? After 5 years your chances of recurrence [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > roses. > > John Loomis, so far a survivor......... |
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