We received a bill for John's cat and bone scans on July 3 yesterday. Since
we are on the Blue Cross PPO, preferred participating providers sign a
contract whereby they are only allowed to charge so much for procedures. I
checked this bill against the Blue Cross statements and found that they
neglected to include a Blue Cross payment of $262 in the total payments and
they overcharged John by this amount. This is just another example of why
we should check our bills carefully. They make mistakes but I think they
also count on our not catching them.
Just my 2 cents.

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David S. - 28 Aug 2003 16:55 GMT
I agree that we have to check carefully, and there are definitely
unscrupulous operators that would try to rely on our lack of attention and
interest to score an unwarranted payment. Just yesterday I called my credit
card company on a charge for some software that I ordered which showed
thirty nine dollars on the credit card statement, but the invoice was thirty
two dollars. That kind of thing could easily slip by if a person did not
check carefully.
Has anyone paid attention to the difference between the charges on the
benefit statements and the amount the insurance company pays? Less than
half in my case. I have Blue Cross HMO.
Hope everyone is doing well.
Thank you.
David S. RRP Version.
> This is just another example of why
> we should check our bills carefully. They make mistakes but I think they
> also count on our not catching them.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
Dave Perry - 28 Aug 2003 22:25 GMT
Here's some of my experience with my Blue Cross PPO which by the way
has paid everything correctly and promptly. The bill my urologist
submitted to the insurance was $6,500 for my surgery. The insurance
paid $2,011 and then there is a note stating $4,489 "is the amount in
excess of the allowed expense for a participating provider. The
member (me), therefore, is not responsible for this amount." Does
this mean my doctor only gets $2,011 for his services and gets stiffed
for the balance? I know my balance due to my doctor is zero so I
assume he charges $6,500 to everyone hoping some without insurance
will pay to cover those also without insurance who don't pay and that
all he realistically hopes to get from insurance companies is the
$2,011. Anyone have a better or a correct explanation?
Dave Perry
> Has anyone paid attention to the difference between the charges on the
> benefit statements and the amount the insurance company pays? Less than
> half in my case. I have Blue Cross HMO.
> Hope everyone is doing well.
> Thank you.
> David S. RRP Version.
Dave H - 29 Aug 2003 00:21 GMT
That's exactly what it means. Doctors and hospitals negotiate volume
discounts with insurers who get staggeringly large discounts from them. The
folks who can't affort Insurance get to pay full price. Doesn't exactly
sound equitable to me, but that's our U.S. medical system for you. Wonder
why people say it's broken???
Now if you firmly believe in letting the free market absolutely rule every
aspect of society, then this is the way to go. The people who send the
majority of business to someone should get a lower rate because they're
guaranteeing a certain volume of business. Guess it's all in your
perspective.
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Dave H (from NH)
Dx March 4, 03 at age 53
PSA 11.0
LRP June 10, 03
Post Op Pathology: Gleason 7(4+3)
negative Nodes & vesicles
positive margins
no extracapsular
PSA @+5 weeks 0.05
c palmer - 29 Aug 2003 02:29 GMT
i know this thread started with blue cross and medical bills, but don't
stop there.
when my dad died, it was in another state and he had to be flown back by
air. we have an airport that lands jets, but this plane for
transporting caskets has to be so big, etc, etc, that it had to land
over 100 miles away. the billing for the air fare was really high and
we found an extra charge and when we question it, they took it off.
the funeral home picked up the body and did the services. when we went
over the bills there was 4 things that we were charged for that they
didn't provide and it was an extra 1200 dollars.
get this - they charged for the mileage of picking up the body from the
airport, they charged for the time it took. and further down on the
bill, they had charged a pick up charge from the hospital/nursing home.
now, how could my dad die and be at two places at the same time. when
we called their hand on it, they said they would adjust the bill. but
how many times do we pay it, thinking the bill is correct.
~ curtis
knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional
jk - 29 Aug 2003 15:53 GMT
> We received a bill for John's cat and bone scans on July 3 yesterday. Since
> we are on the Blue Cross PPO, preferred participating providers sign a
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>
> Just my 2 cents.
I think you are being extremely paranoid. Do you honestly think they have
a plan, to have their accounting sneek another $262 by you? If they had any
money problems, all they need to do is raise the premiums another notch. A
billion dollar company with a license to print money doesn't need to steal.
That's reserved for the private sector!! LOL

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